When to call from nightclub pickup...

[Anfz]

Hey guys went clubbing last night got a girls number,we kissed for quite a bit she was really into me and all,even was hesitant to go home,now heres my question her interest levels are huge I know this for a fact,but when should I call/msg her ? is the next day too soon,or wait abit ,another thing anything in particular to say other than how was your night?recovered yet etc etc thanks

 

[jonwon]

Hey guys went clubbing last night got a girls number,we kissed for quite a bit she was really into me and all,even was hesitant to go home,now heres my question her interest levels are huge I know this for a fact,but when should I call/msg her ? is the next day too soon,or wait abit ,another thing anything in particular to say other than how was your night?recovered yet etc etc thanks

the next day ideal is simply a way for chumps to not come across too keen and spoil it by seeming to be 'desperate'.

The next day and wait a few days stops those type of guys tripping up over there desperation.

Other guys dont worry about those rules and just ring whenever it is convenient for them.

There is no 2-4day rule its simply a placebo effect to make the guy seem more confident!

Hence dont worry about the length of time as long as you dont come across as some desperate chump.

In that phone her when ever your ready, talk about general stuff then ask her out on a date ASAP, then when the date is sorted, say your good-byes and save the conversation things for the actual date.

worrying about this stuff is going to stress you out even more, this is the dark side to the seduction community this is why naturals do well as they dont go by some text book rules!

 

[Anfz]

ohh k so just to clartify what you have said, it makes no difference when and how as long as you dont come across as desperate,now what makes someone come across as desperate ?

 

[jonwon]

ohh k so just to clartify what you have said, it makes no difference when and how as long as you dont come across as desperate,now what makes someone come across as desperate ?

Begging pleading, suplicating, trying to say all the right stuff, trying to please her on the phone, not wanting to step over the boundries, trying to slot into a frame of: I'll have to act so and so, otherwise she wont be impressed and i may loose my only chance.

how to counter it:
Phone her up, be natural as possible, treat it like talking to one of your guy mates if you must, say hi: its xxxx from the other night, i thought i would ring and see if your free this week?! Wait to see what she says:
then ask her what days she is normally free:
Get answer.
the YOU choose one of those dates and choose what your going to do!
dont worry about what the date consists of, as long as it involves just you and her!
Try to make it interesting.
when you have the DATE sorted, tell her:
If there is any reason why you cant make it, let me know and we can sort something out later and i'll do the same for you!

Then say your goodbyes.

Try to avoid small talk on the date call, but if it happens dont worry about it, just the small talk is better for the DATE! but that does not mean its wrong and this is where guys fail, they WORRY too much about WRONG AND RIGHT follow scripted routines and forumla that results in adding to stress.


Now where people go wrong is coming across shy and nervous and feeling put out.

YOU HAVE TO SAY fuc* it and just call her!

you live once dude, syc yourself up and get on the phone and phone her and when she answers remain as 'self' as much as possible, no squeaky new telephone voice, no trying to put on a man voice, this is very much like talking to your buddie.

its easy.

but dont forget even if the phone call does not work out, there is millions more out there that are waiting!

in that worrying about the phone call is natural all men worry about the potential flake, but you have to forget about that shi* and override it and just say fuc* it i am going for this.