"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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When to call back?

chivalry_x

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Here is the situation:

  • HB7.5 girl has been in my class all year
  • Finally talked to Friday night, after the final exam (talk about last minute)
  • She knows I think she's cute (I hinted to watching her in class a few times), but I did not come off as desperate in any way
  • Got her number, said "I'll call you" as I got off the bus
  • She has her last exam on Tuesday (not that it should matter)
  • She does not live in town (she will likely move soon after exams)
She laughed at half of the things I said. I told her "I got plans", but refused to tell her what they were, even though she kept asking (job, etc.). I also did a very minor compliance test, which she passed. That and other things tell me she is definitely interested.

When do I call back? I am thinking tomorrow afternoon (Sunday)? I don't want to come off as desperate, but I want to see her again to see where things go.

As for me, I just finished 4th year undergrad, and she is in 1st year. She knows this, and it (among other things) has likely given me higher value.

I should also add that I have absolutely no relevant experience with girls. 'Kino' is my weakpoint. I can build it up well to where I should start to do 'kino', but I always begin to stumble there.

Main issue here is when to call back. I think I can take it from there.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Mavrick

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Tuesday night.

Because you're busy and you have a lot going on. Make her feel that she's coming into your exciting world and not the other way around. Do not apologize for calling on Tuesday because you call when you want to call.
 

I.A.F.Y.B.

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Everyone is gonna have a different opinion of when to call. Whats today Saturday? I would say Mon. or Tues. (like mentioned above^^)and set up a date. I like setting up dates on the weekends but that's just me. Cause, I work Mon. - Fri.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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chivalry_x

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Hmmm. Well I'm moving on the Wednesday, and I'm busy as hell up until then. If I call Thursday evening and set something up for Friday, is that too 'late'?
 

chivalry_x

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Cr1msonKing said:
Most of the time, when you set up dates with girls, and you set up on a "exciting/party" day it makes you come off like you have nothing to do on a Friday/Saturday night.
Well surely there is a 'limit' as to how long I can take to call before she loses interest?

And as for Fridays/Saturdays, I usually never am doing anything, which leads me to the question: what the heck should I suggest we do? I know I should 'take command', but is a "let's meet up at X location and go from there" too vague?
 

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Call her whenever the hell you feel like calling her. Doesn't matter which night. Calling her a certain time will not make her like you more or less.

If you want to set up a weekday date, do it. If you want to set up a weekend date, do it. All this BS about you appearing like a loser because you want to spend a weekend night with her is just that...Pure watered down BS.
 
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