"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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When the ex texts - FWB or?

fri2oct15

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After 4 weeks no contact (2 year relationship) got the "just seeing how you are" msg.

Replied back a couple of times, kept responses blunt and ended convo.

I wasn't great during the relationship, maybe even too aloof if anything, only got angry/reactive at the end. Mutual breakup although I made it known that we were chucking away a good thing & made my feelings clear that I was into her, alot.

Want to see her again for sure.

Do I ignore - as she's not exactly come back asking to meet/fvck/"try again"
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"Come over and ****" as suggested by a thread on here, then if she resists go NC again.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Alpheta

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You should of just ignored until she double or triple texted. Let that hamster in her head spin so wild she'll be begging to see you.

Go nc from now on. Work on yourself ie spin plates and then if she responds just ask her if she wants to meet up if not just say see you later.
 

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You broke up with her for a reason. Either you broke up because you wanted to or because she wanted.

Going back to her proves that you're an afc .
 

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Yes, agreed with @NSX-R. You should move on.

I like how you handled it though, responding to her politely, while keeping your replies curt. IMO, especially after a good amount of time has passed, not responding at all if she reaches out just gives the impression that you haven't moved on (because if you had, then talking to her a bit wouldn't be a big deal). I wouldn't initiate with her of course, but if she asks how you are, then yes just send a quick message back and be done with it.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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After 4 weeks no contact (2 year relationship) got the "just seeing how you are" msg.

Replied back a couple of times, kept responses blunt and ended convo.

I wasn't great during the relationship, maybe even too aloof if anything, only got angry/reactive at the end. Mutual breakup although I made it known that we were chucking away a good thing & made my feelings clear that I was into her, alot.

Want to see her again for sure.

Do I ignore - as she's not exactly come back asking to meet/fvck/"try again"
or
"Come over and ****" as suggested by a thread on here, then if she resists go NC again.
Just seeing how you are= just want to see if you care about me still because if you do I can still run game on you because it makes me feel secure and validated. If you ignore me it shows me you're not afc and that makes me like you more.
 

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Yes, agreed with @NSX-R. You should move on.

I like how you handled it though, responding to her politely, while keeping your replies curt. IMO, especially after a good amount of time has passed, not responding at all if she reaches out just gives the impression that you haven't moved on (because if you had, then talking to her a bit wouldn't be a big deal). I wouldn't initiate with her of course, but if she asks how you are, then yes just send a quick message back and be done with it.
Or it could mean that you blocked her a$$ and that you wish to have nothing to do with her ever.
 

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Just seeing how you are= just want to see if you care about me still because if you do I can still run game on you because it makes me feel secure and validated.
^^This :up:

And she is probably low on orbiters and wants to see if she can +1 you to the list.

NC is good or responding and keeping it very brief.. A couple short texts and be done. I definitely wouldn't engage in any long conversations and/or disclose any details about yourself at all. Make her wonder...
 

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Thanks for replies above, looks like i've done the "right" thing.

It's that nagging feeling that maybe she was reaching out.......but if she really wanted it, she'd be more direct/try harder anyway.

Will do my best to put this one to the back of my mind for the time being.

What did you guys make of that article btw?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Genos

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It's that nagging feeling that maybe she was reaching out.......but if she really wanted it, she'd be more direct/try harder anyway.
Yes, we've all had this feeling man. It's sometimes a very difficult regret/possibility to manage...but you hit the nail on the head, if she really wanted to get back together, she'd make sure you had no doubt about her intentions.

Take some time off, relax, whatever. Focus on self-improvement, etc. Keep spiraling upwards bud.
 

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Thanks for replies above, looks like i've done the "right" thing.

It's that nagging feeling that maybe she was reaching out.......but if she really wanted it, she'd be more direct/try harder anyway.

Will do my best to put this one to the back of my mind for the time being.

What did you guys make of that article btw?
Not to encourage you that she does want you back but women fear rejection more than men because they don't experience it as much.

It's possible that she's afraid to be to direct.

But just assume she's trying to mess with your head to gratify her own ego.
 

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Not to encourage you that she does want you back but women fear rejection more than men because they don't experience it as much.

It's possible that she's afraid to be to direct.

But just assume she's trying to mess with your head to gratify her own ego.
Yeah this is the only aspect of it which makes me "hold on to hope".

Would love to send a "come over and fck" text right now to be honest.

I won't though, as if she rejects it then BOOM, that'd be all attraction gone, right?
 

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Yeah this is the only aspect of it which makes me "hold on to hope".

Would love to send a "come over and fck" text right now to be honest.

I won't though, as if she rejects it then BOOM, that'd be all attraction gone, right?
Oh, smash that hope. Just move on dude.
 

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Looks like we have a consensus ha. frustrating as fvck, typing that text stayed on my mind all night. will forget about it soon hopefully.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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