"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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When the ex texts - FWB or?

fri2oct15

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After 4 weeks no contact (2 year relationship) got the "just seeing how you are" msg.

Replied back a couple of times, kept responses blunt and ended convo.

I wasn't great during the relationship, maybe even too aloof if anything, only got angry/reactive at the end. Mutual breakup although I made it known that we were chucking away a good thing & made my feelings clear that I was into her, alot.

Want to see her again for sure.

Do I ignore - as she's not exactly come back asking to meet/fvck/"try again"
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"Come over and ****" as suggested by a thread on here, then if she resists go NC again.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Alpheta

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You should of just ignored until she double or triple texted. Let that hamster in her head spin so wild she'll be begging to see you.

Go nc from now on. Work on yourself ie spin plates and then if she responds just ask her if she wants to meet up if not just say see you later.
 

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You broke up with her for a reason. Either you broke up because you wanted to or because she wanted.

Going back to her proves that you're an afc .
 

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Yes, agreed with @NSX-R. You should move on.

I like how you handled it though, responding to her politely, while keeping your replies curt. IMO, especially after a good amount of time has passed, not responding at all if she reaches out just gives the impression that you haven't moved on (because if you had, then talking to her a bit wouldn't be a big deal). I wouldn't initiate with her of course, but if she asks how you are, then yes just send a quick message back and be done with it.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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After 4 weeks no contact (2 year relationship) got the "just seeing how you are" msg.

Replied back a couple of times, kept responses blunt and ended convo.

I wasn't great during the relationship, maybe even too aloof if anything, only got angry/reactive at the end. Mutual breakup although I made it known that we were chucking away a good thing & made my feelings clear that I was into her, alot.

Want to see her again for sure.

Do I ignore - as she's not exactly come back asking to meet/fvck/"try again"
or
"Come over and ****" as suggested by a thread on here, then if she resists go NC again.
Just seeing how you are= just want to see if you care about me still because if you do I can still run game on you because it makes me feel secure and validated. If you ignore me it shows me you're not afc and that makes me like you more.
 

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Yes, agreed with @NSX-R. You should move on.

I like how you handled it though, responding to her politely, while keeping your replies curt. IMO, especially after a good amount of time has passed, not responding at all if she reaches out just gives the impression that you haven't moved on (because if you had, then talking to her a bit wouldn't be a big deal). I wouldn't initiate with her of course, but if she asks how you are, then yes just send a quick message back and be done with it.
Or it could mean that you blocked her a$$ and that you wish to have nothing to do with her ever.
 

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Just seeing how you are= just want to see if you care about me still because if you do I can still run game on you because it makes me feel secure and validated.
^^This :up:

And she is probably low on orbiters and wants to see if she can +1 you to the list.

NC is good or responding and keeping it very brief.. A couple short texts and be done. I definitely wouldn't engage in any long conversations and/or disclose any details about yourself at all. Make her wonder...
 

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Thanks for replies above, looks like i've done the "right" thing.

It's that nagging feeling that maybe she was reaching out.......but if she really wanted it, she'd be more direct/try harder anyway.

Will do my best to put this one to the back of my mind for the time being.

What did you guys make of that article btw?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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It's that nagging feeling that maybe she was reaching out.......but if she really wanted it, she'd be more direct/try harder anyway.
Yes, we've all had this feeling man. It's sometimes a very difficult regret/possibility to manage...but you hit the nail on the head, if she really wanted to get back together, she'd make sure you had no doubt about her intentions.

Take some time off, relax, whatever. Focus on self-improvement, etc. Keep spiraling upwards bud.
 

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Thanks for replies above, looks like i've done the "right" thing.

It's that nagging feeling that maybe she was reaching out.......but if she really wanted it, she'd be more direct/try harder anyway.

Will do my best to put this one to the back of my mind for the time being.

What did you guys make of that article btw?
Not to encourage you that she does want you back but women fear rejection more than men because they don't experience it as much.

It's possible that she's afraid to be to direct.

But just assume she's trying to mess with your head to gratify her own ego.
 

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Not to encourage you that she does want you back but women fear rejection more than men because they don't experience it as much.

It's possible that she's afraid to be to direct.

But just assume she's trying to mess with your head to gratify her own ego.
Yeah this is the only aspect of it which makes me "hold on to hope".

Would love to send a "come over and fck" text right now to be honest.

I won't though, as if she rejects it then BOOM, that'd be all attraction gone, right?
 

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Yeah this is the only aspect of it which makes me "hold on to hope".

Would love to send a "come over and fck" text right now to be honest.

I won't though, as if she rejects it then BOOM, that'd be all attraction gone, right?
Oh, smash that hope. Just move on dude.
 

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Looks like we have a consensus ha. frustrating as fvck, typing that text stayed on my mind all night. will forget about it soon hopefully.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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