"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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When talking to girls, you notice...

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some of them, they would be touching their face, their hair.. or some kind of attempt to touch whatever there is to touch while talking to me.

I know for a fact it doesn't always mean the "LIKE ME" as in want to hook up. But does this mean they feel comfortable talking to me or they are feeling insecure about their looks? I've already googled it but, I want to hear your personal experiences.

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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unless shes touching u, i wouldnt take anything to seriously
 
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Ratisson said:
unless shes touching u, i wouldnt take anything to seriously
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that is a promised way to defeat "dreams" and those are quite enemies i think..do not dream of anything if you don't want to be sad..
 
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Not sure about that but this one lady I come across everytime I scan the store she will be like a deer in headlights looking at me when I am there. Not sure what it means but shes fine but she tends to disappear everytime I want to approach and find out whats up?

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Read This And Learn.. Make Her More Uncomfterble

DJnoob said:
some of them, they would be touching their face, their hair.. or some kind of attempt to touch whatever there is to touch while talking to me.
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Listen, she may be doing it cause 1)She likes you 2)She is comfertable (NOT LIKELYE) in fact 3) she IS NOT COMFTERBLE (more likely) this is in a good way, i.e. she is interested but doesnt quet know how to carry her self 4)she is insecure etc....

DOESNT FCKING matter man... What you have to do, is TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION... as soon as you see that level of uncomfterbility or insecuirty, pull the MOVES.. i.e. reach over to her cheek and pretend like your wipping something off and say"ohh you had something there, but I got it off" I LOVE doing that... it SHOCKS them, and then brings them to a comfort zone, cause youre "helping" out and "touching" at same time... you can do anything, like adjusting her earing, going for the lips "i.e. something in the corner of her mouth"

CONCLUSION.. DO ANYTHING YOU CAN, TO MAKE HER MORE UNCOMFTERBLE i.e. taking control of the situation.. think about it, daddys little girl can relax in front of her dad cause DAD got the situation controlled... you in essence need to take that role ;)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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DonJuanByNature said:
Listen, she may be doing it cause 1)She likes you 2)She is comfertable (NOT LIKELYE) in fact 3) she IS NOT COMFTERBLE (more likely) this is in a good way, i.e. she is interested but doesnt quet know how to carry her self 4)she is insecure etc....

DOESNT FCKING matter man... What you have to do, is TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION... as soon as you see that level of uncomfterbility or insecuirty, pull the MOVES.. i.e. reach over to her cheek and pretend like your wipping something off and say"ohh you had something there, but I got it off" I LOVE doing that... it SHOCKS them, and then brings them to a comfort zone, cause youre "helping" out and "touching" at same time... you can do anything, like adjusting her earing, going for the lips "i.e. something in the corner of her mouth"

CONCLUSION.. DO ANYTHING YOU CAN, TO MAKE HER MORE UNCOMFTERBLE i.e. taking control of the situation.. think about it, daddys little girl can relax in front of her dad cause DAD got the situation controlled... you in essence need to take that role ;)
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Good advice and smooth.

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DonJuanByNature said:
Listen, she may be doing it cause 1)She likes you 2)She is comfertable (NOT LIKELYE) in fact 3) she IS NOT COMFTERBLE (more likely) this is in a good way, i.e. she is interested but doesnt quet know how to carry her self 4)she is insecure etc....

DOESNT FCKING matter man... What you have to do, is TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION... as soon as you see that level of uncomfterbility or insecuirty, pull the MOVES.. i.e. reach over to her cheek and pretend like your wipping something off and say"ohh you had something there, but I got it off" I LOVE doing that... it SHOCKS them, and then brings them to a comfort zone, cause youre "helping" out and "touching" at same time... you can do anything, like adjusting her earing, going for the lips "i.e. something in the corner of her mouth"

CONCLUSION.. DO ANYTHING YOU CAN, TO MAKE HER MORE UNCOMFTERBLE i.e. taking control of the situation.. think about it, daddys little girl can relax in front of her dad cause DAD got the situation controlled... you in essence need to take that role ;)
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makes sense. Anyway, it was just some chick at work. Yeah, she's very very cute like a hot burnette 8.5. Even the other alpha males at work are INLOVE with this chick.

A summary of what really happened:
I was working in my department doing some stuff and I see her walking by. So I greeted by saying:

djnoob - "Hey looser"
HB 8.5 - "hey djnoob! man, this sucks.. i have to do this and this.. bla bla bla

I just want to be her friend really and user her for social proof. She was talking to me for like 2 minutes at work and she did a half stretch by raising her hands in mid air which exposed her arm pits..

So I negged her by giving her the "smelly facial expression" while waving my hand infront my face left to right with a smile on my face of course..

And she was like "oh shutup"
djnoob - "hey watcha been doing this summer?"
hb - "not much. But I am going to Santa Fe tomorrow!"
djnoob - "cool. Have you been to Fair?"
hb - "We were planning on going to.. but we ended up not going"
djnoob -"well, check this out. Next week, there will be a concert there. Smash mouth will be there, led zeppelin, etc etc."
hb - "oh wow, thats so cool"
djnoob -"if you are not doing anything next wednesday me and my friends are going to go see it, it would be cool if you can come along, if not, thats cool too"
hb - "ok"
djnoonb - "do you still have the same cell phone number" (i've asked her for it back in january before she disappeared for 5 months but I haven't called her since then... cuz like i said, Im not trying to hook up wid her or anything and due to the fact she has a BF)
hb - "yeah, i don think ive changed it"
djnob - "ok then ill call you and figure things out"
hb - "ok"
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So, i thinking of calling her maybe later but... Is there anything else I can say to get my message across even further that I just want to be friends with her? Maybe lie to her that my "stripper girl friend" is coming along
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Im thinking of maybe not calling her to ask her plans for wednesday. Instead, I am just going to meet her at work in person and say something like this:

djnoob - "hey, i didn't call you cause think i threw your number away or lost it or something... so, anyways, you gona tag along with us on wednesday or what?"
 
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From a psychological standpoint, touching of the face is bad, usually means boredom or uneasyness. The higher they touch their face, the worse. Its subconscous. Rubbing the chin or lips is mild disinterest or boredom. Nose, cheeks and ears are moderate, and forehead and temple is the worst.

Her touching her hair is good, flipping it back or floofing it is a subconscious effort for her to get noticed.

As a guy, be aware of your non-verbal signals. Don't rub your nose, chin, eyes or forehead when talking. Make an effort to not subconsiously do this.

Read her signals, if you're getting the face touch, go for damage control to make her at ease. If you get the hair flip or touch, then work that as a positive sign.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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rocky_mtn said:
From a psychological standpoint, touching of the face is bad, usually means boredom or uneasyness. The higher they touch their face, the worse. Its subconscous. Rubbing the chin or lips is mild disinterest or boredom. Nose, cheeks and ears are moderate, and forehead and temple is the worst.

Her touching her hair is good, flipping it back or floofing it is a subconscious effort for her to get noticed.

As a guy, be aware of your non-verbal signals. Don't rub your nose, chin, eyes or forehead when talking. Make an effort to not subconsiously do this.

Read her signals, if you're getting the face touch, go for damage control to make her at ease. If you get the hair flip or touch, then work that as a positive sign.
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Yeah, she had a hat on. I was positivle sure she was going to run her fingers through her hair but she had a hat on. I was cracking up inside when I noticed that. It looked like as if she was going to use both her hands to stroke her hair from from to back.

She didnt touch her face or any of that.

Well, thanks for sharing your thoughts guys.
 
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