"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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When should you burn your bridges?

Plutoman

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General question, as I've gotten to thinking about it a bit lately. I've burnt a lot of bridges in the past, cut people off from my life. I had reasons for it generally, but it's also tended to leave me with a small social circle. I've only got my closest friends in there, the ones that I can rely on, but the situation still stands. I generally find myself hesitant to build strong bonds with people (I think I've dealt with too many people with disorders to do that easily..), and it makes it significantly easier to drop contact.

Just yesterday I cut contact, deleted the number, etc, of a girl that I had gotten over-invested in as she wasn't willing to let go of her attachment to another guy (might call out low-interest here, but her body language says otherwise). I don't know if that was the right decision, and I'm tempted to try and recover and just go for casual friendship - I'm not sure if I should burn the bridge here or not. My gut's telling me that if I don't burn it, I'll likely remain over-invested (even with other options, this girl stands out quite a bit, in looks, personality, and intelligence..).

What kind of criteria is involved in determining this? When should you burn it? Is it worthwhile to burn a bridge, even when you enjoy their company?

The standard advice is to not burn bridges; but I find situations more often than not call for it in my own life. I'm curious to hear some thoughts on the subject.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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First of all, culling is good and a small circle is usually a genuine one.

IMO Once you have craved for something more with a girl, you'll NEVER be able to genuinely have a casual relationship with her. Remove yourself from the equation without literally burning the bridge, one day in the future you might cross paths again and her situation may have changed in your benefit, in the mean-time theres a sh!t load of other women out there!

Re reading your post, you've kind of answered your own question tbh and I've just repeated it.
 

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Plutoman said:
Just yesterday I cut contact, deleted the number, etc, of a girl that I had gotten over-invested in as she wasn't willing to let go of her attachment to another guy (might call out low-interest here, but her body language says otherwise). I don't know if that was the right decision, and I'm tempted to try and recover and just go for casual friendship - I'm not sure if I should burn the bridge here or not.
In other words, you went NO CONTACT... That's not necessarily burning a bridge. It gives you the chance to get over her and move on to other things, while also allowing her to sort out her true feelings for you (and him). Keep doing this! I can almost GUARANTEE she'll try to contact you, and probably sooner than later. Just remember, if you respond back to her tonight, or this week, not enough time has passed yet for her to really sort out how she feels about you.

The Gambler
 

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Good question. I generally burn a lot of bridges, too. My natural friends, on the other hand, seem to keep up contact with all of their exes. They might not talk a lot with them, but every once in a while.

I don't have time to write a longer post but for now I'll say I think there's a correlation between how much experience you have with women and what terms you end on with them. Naturals know that women can always come around again.

The better I've gotten with women, the better terms I've been on with them even when things go south.

That said, there are times when you should just not hesitate to go ghost!
 

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The Gambler said:
In other words, you went NO CONTACT... That's not necessarily burning a bridge. It gives you the chance to get over her and move on to other things, while also allowing her to sort out her true feelings for you (and him). Keep doing this! I can almost GUARANTEE she'll try to contact you, and probably sooner than later. Just remember, if you respond back to her tonight, or this week, not enough time has passed yet for her to really sort out how she feels about you.

The Gambler
Interesting distinction - I've tended to think of it from the terms of my contact to her. I've not thought about it from the terms of her contact towards me. There is a correlation with experience - I won't pretend to know completely what I'm doing here at all times.

In this situation, it's the second time she's pulled back - I gave her a second chance there, cut my contact now. It'd be a simpler prospect if I wasn't in three classes with her; only 5-6 classes left in the semester total, luckily. I'll give her a smile and move on for now. Last thing I told her was that I've had a great time with her, happy holidays, and good luck in life. Not bad, but I'm just not going to contact her. If she got her stuff together, though, she'd be solid LTR material.

Still, the fact remains that it's not just this situation - I've burned quite a few bridges, and pissed off a few people, ignored contact from others. I'm curious as to the types of situations that warrant this, versus the types of situations in which contact is good. Don't get me wrong - I'm not looking for specific advice here (but I don't mind it, either), as I'd rather see some more general information, examples, that I can apply and understand across the rest of my life.

Obviously, my major ex - BPD-type girl - I'm steadily working towards limited contact. I'm hesitant to go full NC, as I seriously don't want a suicide happening (and it could) - but limited contact is a good thing in this.

NewAndImproved - I'd love to hear some more on it. That's interesting. I don't have any naturals as friends - my friends are genuine, but none of them are good with women by any means. I can see a correlation there that could apply.
 

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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Girls-wise, if I feel she's not interested I delete her number. It bugs me to have it in my phone for some reason. If I see her socially, that's fine, I don't care anymore. Friend-wise, my circle is very small and Brosy is right, it is genuine, so I don't mind it.

What is important is is to make the distinction between friends and acquaintances. I always found the latter to be a lot more disposable.
 
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