"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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When should I call ?

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So for the last two months Ive been talking and flirting with this waitress at a local breakfast place. We have gotten to know each other reasonably well, I always crack some blond jokes to her which she loves.

Finally today I tell her " we should go out for a drink this weekend " she says that she can't because she is working all weekend * she starts at 5:30 " then she says " but some other time "

So I tell her we should exchange numbers and get in touch, so we do.

I doubt she is gonna call me, chicks just don't do that, so when do you guys think I should call ??? Im thinking middle of next week............
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Whenever you want to. Why is so much thought put into when to make that call, just don't do it the same day.
 

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Dont call on the same day because you have already spoke to her and she doesnt know when she will next be free it will come across as desperate to ask her out twice in the same day. Give her a couple of days and phone her for a casual friendly chat and wait to see if she mentions when she is free if she does then ask her if she wants to hang out.
 
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Call her whenever you damn want and be a caveman not a little DJ hiding behind his computer! And find more girls! Whenever you get too worried about ONE girl.....FIND TEN MORE! Then you won't give a damn about "when to call" Jeez...
 

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You can call whenever you want,but personally,I think it's ALREADY OVER WITH.

Two months.

You've spent TWO MONTHS...flirting?

Why so long? She's probably been asked out a hundred times by other guys since your started this "flirting". And who knows how many (if any) dates she's been out on.

I think she gave you her number just to be nice,but hopefully I'm wrong.

You should have asked her out either the first time you met her and was interested in her,or at least the second time you went up to this breakfast place.

If you had immediately asked her out in a manly,confident manner,you would have demonstrated that you're a "go for what he wants" type of guy.

Now that two months have passed,she probably thinks you were too scared to make a move,which is unattractive.

Who knows,she probably was hoping you'd asked her out the first time you two saw each other,but by displaying this "turnoff",she most likely lost interest.


I still say to call her,although I'd let a little time pass first.

What I mean is if you saw her at her job today,then go like 2 or 3 days without seeing her,then call her.

You don't want to have seen her this morning,then call her tonight.

Good luck man.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Re:

Igetit! said:
You can call whenever you want,but personally,I think it's ALREADY OVER WITH.

Two months.

You've spent TWO MONTHS...flirting?

Why so long? She's probably been asked out a hundred times by other guys since your started this "flirting". And who knows how many (if any) dates she's been out on.

I think she gave you her number just to be nice,but hopefully I'm wrong.

You should have asked her out either the first time you met her and was interested in her,or at least the second time you went up to this breakfast place.

If you had immediately asked her out in a manly,confident manner,you would have demonstrated that you're a "go for what he wants" type of guy.

Now that two months have passed,she probably thinks you were too scared to make a move,which is unattractive.

Who knows,she probably was hoping you'd asked her out the first time you two saw each other,but by displaying this "turnoff",she most likely lost interest.


I still say to call her,although I'd let a little time pass first.

What I mean is if you saw her at her job today,then go like 2 or 3 days without seeing her,then call her.

You don't want to have seen her this morning,then call her tonight.

Good luck man.

A couple things................first of all I see her once a week Max during this two month stretch ( she always works different days )

Secondly asking out a waitress the first time you meet her is a sure way to fail. She is cute and get's hit on constantly Im sure by strange guys she doesnt know and I guarantee that she does not accept invites from people she doesnt know..................I have dated waitresse before and they have all told me this.
 
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