"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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When should I call ?

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So for the last two months Ive been talking and flirting with this waitress at a local breakfast place. We have gotten to know each other reasonably well, I always crack some blond jokes to her which she loves.

Finally today I tell her " we should go out for a drink this weekend " she says that she can't because she is working all weekend * she starts at 5:30 " then she says " but some other time "

So I tell her we should exchange numbers and get in touch, so we do.

I doubt she is gonna call me, chicks just don't do that, so when do you guys think I should call ??? Im thinking middle of next week............
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Whenever you want to. Why is so much thought put into when to make that call, just don't do it the same day.
 

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Dont call on the same day because you have already spoke to her and she doesnt know when she will next be free it will come across as desperate to ask her out twice in the same day. Give her a couple of days and phone her for a casual friendly chat and wait to see if she mentions when she is free if she does then ask her if she wants to hang out.
 
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Call her whenever you damn want and be a caveman not a little DJ hiding behind his computer! And find more girls! Whenever you get too worried about ONE girl.....FIND TEN MORE! Then you won't give a damn about "when to call" Jeez...
 

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You can call whenever you want,but personally,I think it's ALREADY OVER WITH.

Two months.

You've spent TWO MONTHS...flirting?

Why so long? She's probably been asked out a hundred times by other guys since your started this "flirting". And who knows how many (if any) dates she's been out on.

I think she gave you her number just to be nice,but hopefully I'm wrong.

You should have asked her out either the first time you met her and was interested in her,or at least the second time you went up to this breakfast place.

If you had immediately asked her out in a manly,confident manner,you would have demonstrated that you're a "go for what he wants" type of guy.

Now that two months have passed,she probably thinks you were too scared to make a move,which is unattractive.

Who knows,she probably was hoping you'd asked her out the first time you two saw each other,but by displaying this "turnoff",she most likely lost interest.


I still say to call her,although I'd let a little time pass first.

What I mean is if you saw her at her job today,then go like 2 or 3 days without seeing her,then call her.

You don't want to have seen her this morning,then call her tonight.

Good luck man.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Re:

Igetit! said:
You can call whenever you want,but personally,I think it's ALREADY OVER WITH.

Two months.

You've spent TWO MONTHS...flirting?

Why so long? She's probably been asked out a hundred times by other guys since your started this "flirting". And who knows how many (if any) dates she's been out on.

I think she gave you her number just to be nice,but hopefully I'm wrong.

You should have asked her out either the first time you met her and was interested in her,or at least the second time you went up to this breakfast place.

If you had immediately asked her out in a manly,confident manner,you would have demonstrated that you're a "go for what he wants" type of guy.

Now that two months have passed,she probably thinks you were too scared to make a move,which is unattractive.

Who knows,she probably was hoping you'd asked her out the first time you two saw each other,but by displaying this "turnoff",she most likely lost interest.


I still say to call her,although I'd let a little time pass first.

What I mean is if you saw her at her job today,then go like 2 or 3 days without seeing her,then call her.

You don't want to have seen her this morning,then call her tonight.

Good luck man.

A couple things................first of all I see her once a week Max during this two month stretch ( she always works different days )

Secondly asking out a waitress the first time you meet her is a sure way to fail. She is cute and get's hit on constantly Im sure by strange guys she doesnt know and I guarantee that she does not accept invites from people she doesnt know..................I have dated waitresse before and they have all told me this.
 
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