"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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When She Says "Don't Kiss Me"

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There are two reasons a woman will say "Don't kiss me":

1) She doesn't want to kiss you.
2) She DOES want to kiss you.

Has anyone else experienced version 2 and had her go through with it after?

I have on several occasions and in retrospect it's often those girls who are the most passionate. It's like they say it because they know they can't control themselves. But it's a dangerous point and it tests your confidence, so keep an eye out for it and be ready.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Good one. Not specifically "don't kiss me" but once or twice "what are you doing?"

I usually don't say anything, touch her face and kiss her.
 

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Another variation is: "I'll stay over but promise you won't try anything.................. tie me up."
 

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I comes down to this....always assume she wants you and go for it no matter what she says.
 

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Coincidentally, I read the same advice on another site via Twitter. Whatever she says, don't get butt-hurt and just try again later. It's as if they enjoy you trying again so they can confirm you are manly.

If she keeps on insisting and genuinely does NOT want to kiss you after a few attempts, then I say drop her aṣṣ off and call it a night.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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If she says 'Don't kiss me' you should say 'No no please kiss me! Please please please!"

Then probably she kiss you:)
 

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bigneil said:
There are two reasons a woman will say "Don't kiss me":

1) She doesn't want to kiss you.
2) She DOES want to kiss you.

Has anyone else experienced version 2 and had her go through with it after?

I have on several occasions and in retrospect it's often those girls who are the most passionate. It's like they say it because they know they can't control themselves. But it's a dangerous point and it tests your confidence, so keep an eye out for it and be ready.
I'm not sure bro, why would a girl who wants to kiss you say "Don't kiss me"? If she jokes about that then everything else coming out of her mouth can't be taken seriously.

I mean if she says "dont f me" and you do, she could charge you with rape because she told you don't do it. Court won't care if she enjoyed herself or not.
 

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bigneil said:
There are two reasons a woman will say "Don't kiss me":

1) She doesn't want to kiss you.
2) She DOES want to kiss you.

Has anyone else experienced version 2 and had her go through with it after?

I have on several occasions and in retrospect it's often those girls who are the most passionate. It's like they say it because they know they can't control themselves. But it's a dangerous point and it tests your confidence, so keep an eye out for it and be ready.
They say it because you "date" prostitutes, bigneil.
 

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AlexDP - it's great to hear from you. Hey I'm still with that same girl who you said (one year ago) didn't care about me. Thanks for the anti-advice as usual.
 

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bigneil said:
AlexDP - it's great to hear from you. Hey I'm still with that same girl who you said (one year ago) didn't care about me. Thanks for the anti-advice as usual.
She doesn't. She likes your security, hence why you're making all these threads about her. So far you've been flaked on and she is telling you not to engage her in the simplest mode of "Caring"... " do not kiss me"......
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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JohnChops said:
So far you've been flaked on
I've (almost, possibly) once been (pre) flaked on - in 18 months of dating (defined as not having to always spend money to see) this girl - and that's John's deduction from all of this? I've been flaked on?

He forgot "laid" by her over 3 different years, when she was ages 19, 20 and 21. I must have done something right. She's always been the sexiest girl I know.

Now John's pretending she never kissed me? She has never not kissed me, but Saturday night in the middle of a massage she randomly said "Don't kiss me, just f*ck me" and then (when I was nonreactive) she initiated the most passionate kissing yet, which continued for an hour after the sex had ended.

Other members have observed this phenomenon with their women.

So don't believe the losers, whiners, women posing as men and cheapskates on here, folks. A negative attitude can cost you when you get the "Don't kiss me" test.
 

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bigneil said:
I've (almost, possibly) once been (pre) flaked on - in 18 months of dating (defined as not having to always spend money to see) this girl - and that's John's deduction from all of this? I've been flaked on?

He forgot "laid" by her over 3 different years, when she was ages 19, 20 and 21. I must have done something right. She's always been the sexiest girl I know.

Now John's pretending she never kissed me? She has never not kissed me, but Saturday night in the middle of a massage she randomly said "Don't kiss me, just f*ck me" and then (when I was nonreactive) she initiated the most passionate kissing yet, which continued for an hour after the sex had ended.

Other members have observed this phenomenon with their women.

So don't believe the losers, whiners, women posing as men and cheapskates on here, folks. A negative attitude can cost you when you get the "Don't kiss me" test.
Never said any of that Neil. And I am neither a loser, whiner, woman posing as a man, or a cheapskate. Im the most positive person you know, think Burroughs but the polar opposite :up:
 
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