"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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When She Says "Don't Kiss Me"

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There are two reasons a woman will say "Don't kiss me":

1) She doesn't want to kiss you.
2) She DOES want to kiss you.

Has anyone else experienced version 2 and had her go through with it after?

I have on several occasions and in retrospect it's often those girls who are the most passionate. It's like they say it because they know they can't control themselves. But it's a dangerous point and it tests your confidence, so keep an eye out for it and be ready.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Good one. Not specifically "don't kiss me" but once or twice "what are you doing?"

I usually don't say anything, touch her face and kiss her.
 

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Another variation is: "I'll stay over but promise you won't try anything.................. tie me up."
 

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I comes down to this....always assume she wants you and go for it no matter what she says.
 

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Coincidentally, I read the same advice on another site via Twitter. Whatever she says, don't get butt-hurt and just try again later. It's as if they enjoy you trying again so they can confirm you are manly.

If she keeps on insisting and genuinely does NOT want to kiss you after a few attempts, then I say drop her aṣṣ off and call it a night.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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If she says 'Don't kiss me' you should say 'No no please kiss me! Please please please!"

Then probably she kiss you:)
 

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bigneil said:
There are two reasons a woman will say "Don't kiss me":

1) She doesn't want to kiss you.
2) She DOES want to kiss you.

Has anyone else experienced version 2 and had her go through with it after?

I have on several occasions and in retrospect it's often those girls who are the most passionate. It's like they say it because they know they can't control themselves. But it's a dangerous point and it tests your confidence, so keep an eye out for it and be ready.
I'm not sure bro, why would a girl who wants to kiss you say "Don't kiss me"? If she jokes about that then everything else coming out of her mouth can't be taken seriously.

I mean if she says "dont f me" and you do, she could charge you with rape because she told you don't do it. Court won't care if she enjoyed herself or not.
 

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bigneil said:
There are two reasons a woman will say "Don't kiss me":

1) She doesn't want to kiss you.
2) She DOES want to kiss you.

Has anyone else experienced version 2 and had her go through with it after?

I have on several occasions and in retrospect it's often those girls who are the most passionate. It's like they say it because they know they can't control themselves. But it's a dangerous point and it tests your confidence, so keep an eye out for it and be ready.
They say it because you "date" prostitutes, bigneil.
 

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AlexDP - it's great to hear from you. Hey I'm still with that same girl who you said (one year ago) didn't care about me. Thanks for the anti-advice as usual.
 

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bigneil said:
AlexDP - it's great to hear from you. Hey I'm still with that same girl who you said (one year ago) didn't care about me. Thanks for the anti-advice as usual.
She doesn't. She likes your security, hence why you're making all these threads about her. So far you've been flaked on and she is telling you not to engage her in the simplest mode of "Caring"... " do not kiss me"......
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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JohnChops said:
So far you've been flaked on
I've (almost, possibly) once been (pre) flaked on - in 18 months of dating (defined as not having to always spend money to see) this girl - and that's John's deduction from all of this? I've been flaked on?

He forgot "laid" by her over 3 different years, when she was ages 19, 20 and 21. I must have done something right. She's always been the sexiest girl I know.

Now John's pretending she never kissed me? She has never not kissed me, but Saturday night in the middle of a massage she randomly said "Don't kiss me, just f*ck me" and then (when I was nonreactive) she initiated the most passionate kissing yet, which continued for an hour after the sex had ended.

Other members have observed this phenomenon with their women.

So don't believe the losers, whiners, women posing as men and cheapskates on here, folks. A negative attitude can cost you when you get the "Don't kiss me" test.
 

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bigneil said:
I've (almost, possibly) once been (pre) flaked on - in 18 months of dating (defined as not having to always spend money to see) this girl - and that's John's deduction from all of this? I've been flaked on?

He forgot "laid" by her over 3 different years, when she was ages 19, 20 and 21. I must have done something right. She's always been the sexiest girl I know.

Now John's pretending she never kissed me? She has never not kissed me, but Saturday night in the middle of a massage she randomly said "Don't kiss me, just f*ck me" and then (when I was nonreactive) she initiated the most passionate kissing yet, which continued for an hour after the sex had ended.

Other members have observed this phenomenon with their women.

So don't believe the losers, whiners, women posing as men and cheapskates on here, folks. A negative attitude can cost you when you get the "Don't kiss me" test.
Never said any of that Neil. And I am neither a loser, whiner, woman posing as a man, or a cheapskate. Im the most positive person you know, think Burroughs but the polar opposite :up:
 
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