Wow - did judge nismo just contradict himself?If you're doing everything right, this would be a non-issue. Often, somone better comes along and does better than you.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Wow - did judge nismo just contradict himself?If you're doing everything right, this would be a non-issue. Often, somone better comes along and does better than you.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I agree, they never give a girl space to fall in love. Does that work in bed too? If she's not immediately ready to fuk, next her???I'm really tired of the loser mentality of these imbittered "don juans" here. Their advice is simple: she is not that interested. That was the point of this thread.
Not ONE person has provided ONE shred of help with how to MAINTAIN a relationship. (Have they ever?) Their philosophy is: if she doesn't act like a woman with EXTREMELY high interest - ALWAYS - then it is over - FOREVER. Hence, most of you don't score as much as I do.
A good majority of men on here aren't looking for LTRs. How to maintain it? Be the same person you were when you started dating. If you were fun, stay fun. If you did salsa, keep doing salsa. If you were in good shape, keep doing those things. You catch the drift. The distance will have to soften if you want to get serious with a woman. She will want to see you more frequently, she will want to talk to you more. Eventually, she will want exclusivity...I'm really tired of the loser mentality of these imbittered "don juans" here. Their advice is simple: she is not that interested. That was the point of this thread.
Not ONE person has provided ONE shred of help with how to MAINTAIN a relationship. (Have they ever?) Their philosophy is: if she doesn't act like a woman with EXTREMELY high interest - ALWAYS - then it is over - FOREVER. Hence, most of you don't score as much as I do.
I would only abandon ship if you see a pattern of flakiness etcShe came back to me just hours after I saw her again.
Beware out of sight, out of mind phenomenon. Thanks to those who didn't say I should abandon ship.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Yes and also there's no such thing as doing everything "perfectly" right or wrong with a woman. There's no such measuring stick.Have you ever had a girl you had several dates with, had sex with (not in a commitment) and you did everything perfectly and you had her totally in love with you, and then, seemingly at random, she vanished or went cold?
8) Got her back late December (owned her). She went away January and we missed each other. Super Bowl she was the first to say "I love you". February - present, total bliss. Best romance of my life so far.Looking back at my last 7 notable relationships:
1) 10/2008 - 1/2009 (owned her), 2/2009 (got dumped and handled it wrong), 5/2009 - 10/2010 (owned her and was bored). She was older than me and is now over 50. At my disposal.
2) 11/2010 - 1/2011 (almost got her, had sex) 1/2011 (got dumped and handled it WAY wrong). 2/2011 - 4/2011 (she returned but I had ruined her attraction). Now a single mom writing to me every day on FB. At my disposal.
3) 7/2011 (One night stand with girl), 7/2011 (she cancelled our 2nd date and went back to husband), 8/2011- 11/2011 (she texted one night, then I owned her and had to dump her and she begged me not to). At my disposal.
4) 10/2011 - 12/2011 (lukewarm texting, then fantastic sex), 1/2012 - 4/2012 (owned her), 4/2012 (got dumped in historic fashion). 8/2012 - 6/2014 (had her at my disposal but she had gained weight). She got married and I didn't care.
5) 5/2014 - 6/2014 (love at first sight romance), 6/2014-8/2014 (avoided her and didn't call her), 8/2014 - 12/2014 (owned her), 1/2015 - 7/2015 (didn't see her, LDR), 7/2015 - 11/2015 (owned her) 11/2015 - relationship ended mutually. She reached out on FB yesterday. Age 21 and possibly at my disposal.
6) 12/2015 - 1/2015 (owned her), 2/2015 (she went MIA), 2/2015 - 3/2015 (she came back but I was no longer attracted and ended it). Now lives out of state and single mom.
7) 8/2016 - 12/2016 (owned her), 12/2016 (first resistance met yesterday). Move on?
That's the cold reality in the nature of game of a woman with options (in real life, OLD, social media outlets), hypergamy if you will. If texting/calling drops off, flirting, affection, hooking up, distancing, withdrawing, hot/cold inconsistent behavior -- all of it can be chalked up to low-mid interest level.It's high value + perfect chemistry that creates the magical feeling of romance. And if the new guy was able to create a more "magical" feeling than you, she would potentially leave you in a heart beat. If your chick went cold, this is probably what happened.
I agree you can't build chemistry, but it sounds like you are confusing early chemistry with long term bonding. Love at first sight rarely lasts because people get disillusioned.I would disagree with this. Love = romance + congruency. If you are the new guy and your relationship with her feels congruent (chemistry, connection, etc), you can steal her right away. This is high level stuff but it is true in my experience. The need for "time" just means she doesn't feel you 100% yet.
I have never "built" a relationship with a woman through time. There was perfect chemistry from the very beginning and I simply capitalized on it. And eventually that perfect chemistry fades.
A newer/better looking or higher status guy can come in and take your place providing the chemistry she has with him feels "right."
Time is not a factor in relationships. Only emotional states that create the illusion of deep rapport and connection (Vegas marriages, anyone?). Have you ever met someone and felt you've known them your whole life? In the same way, maybe you have known someone your entire life but never felt like you knew them. In both of those situations, the time theory falls flat.
It's high value + perfect chemistry that creates the magical feeling of romance. And if the new guy was able to create a more "magical" feeling than you, she would potentially leave you in a heart beat. If your chick went cold, this is probably what happened.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
If she finds better she will take it, by definition of better. You need to ultimately be her best option. She might explore other options and come back to realizing you are the best. Getting a woman to fall in love is like getting a beer drinker to love wine. It takes time.That's the cold reality in the nature of game of a woman with options (in real life, OLD, social media outlets), hypergamy if you will. If texting/calling drops off, flirting, affection, hooking up, distancing, withdrawing, hot/cold inconsistent behavior -- all of it can be chalked up to low-mid interest level.
The ego doesn't want to accept the fact that a bigger better deal came around with higher SMV. A new charming catch entered her picture or came back from the blue and runs solid game on her. I've found that is often the case. It takes just 1-3 dates for her to get to the hook up and know if she wants to proceed more with the guy in question than you.
I do the once a week date (twice tops if for good reason or a sleep over) that is often suggested here. However, if you think about it... that's 6 other days of that week that she has to accept a date from another guy. She can cram in even more if she plans lunch, coffee (hour), ice cream dates. If interest level is revving high and well, she should naturally desire to see to you more or move in to each others place if the LTR is transitioning out of casual dating. Flaking and all that behavior mentioned above is troubling sign that she's soft nexting you for the replacement.
Hypergamy means she found someone better than herself, not better than you.Hypergamy. A woman's love life is like a vacuum.
I wholly agree with about half of what da dynamically is saying.The mistake most guys make is thinking just because a woman cheats on you, that she is no longer in love with you.
I'd say more like 1 in 16. And yes, you can't bypass chemistry. Deep emotional bonds come out of early chemistry combined with early oxytocin (pair bonding) combined with good fortune (you must like the same foods, drugs, restaurants, movies and music, etc). It's sort of a phenomenon. Most of the time love at first sight becomes breakup at first argument. When you hold the right person it feels like two magnets clicking together versus just holding two washers together.Probably the thing that makes cheating possible and rampant is the fact that most people in relationships don't even have a deep emotional bond. Most relationships are based on "romantic spark" and then ends when that spark is gone. The other type is a "trading" relationship where two people almost have an exchange. Sex for validation, validation for validation, sex for resources, etc.
I would argue that "most" relationships are based on two people pretending to be other people just to impress one another. Then as soon as each party starts to become themselves, the other person feel as if their partner "changed." But in reality, it's the first time both have been themselves.
My argument is not "deep emptional bonds" don't exist. It's more like it might exist in 1 in every 6-7 relationships. And perhaps you are in one and projecting from that point of you and it clouds you from seeing the reality of MOST romantic relationships.
BTW I have been in a lot of relationships with women based on this "early chemistry," if you want to call it that. But I have rarely experienced a deep emotional bond that comes out of nowhere no matter how long I have been with a woman. Maybe twice in my entire life. And the first time, it happened in high school!
Another thing to note is, one of my tenets of game is that any woman worth having is already in a relationship. Where do you think I got that from? From real life. The fact that almost all of my relationships happened when the woman was already attached. I didn't steal her away. It's more like the restriction her partner puts on her pushes her towards me. I have been the "replacement guy" over a dozen times. It's not that difficult to break some "emotional bond" and be the new guy most of the time.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.