"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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when not seeing them isn't possible

themaster07

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Hey everyone,i researched the past topics and i couldnt find anything that relates to my situation so i just wanted to hear what some of the other members would do.

I have had feelings for a girl i work with for a few months now,and we sometimes go out with a few of her girlfriends and some of my mates clubbing,and we have a good time and that.. she is in a longterm relationship so i haven't bothered trying to get with her,she is incredibly hot a 10/10er easily,and latley ive started seeing a different side of her,a bytch side.. it's like whenever she's in a good mood she's fine to talk to,but the next day she'll tell you to f*ck off lol,so ive gathered she is pretty fake to peoples faces and all about herself..

and i'd like to think ive learnt abit from this site,about one-itis etc,and to not put up with disrespect,but for some reason im finding it harder to easily move on and not be affected by her looks and whatever she does or says etc,(she knows she has a power over me),so what can you do to be over someone when you HAVE to see them every week? and they come out clubbing as well?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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GloriouslyInsane

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Well..the reason you see her "bytch" side is because you're an afc around her.How to defeat her? Not let her own you.

First mistake was fooling around with a girl you're gonna see at your workplace.Don't go clubbing with her is a good start and when she asks for something at work make her work for it or flat-out decline to help her saying you're busy.
 

themaster07

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ohh ok thanks for that man,she often asks me to do some jobs which all comes down to how busy i am as to whether i do them straight away,and last week she asked me to do one and i said "sure" and i didnt have time,so then another girl came in and said "hey can you do this please,cause when ya do this we can go home" and i go "alright 2 secs" and i was talking to another employee and the hot bytch walks in and says "hey master how many more hours do we have to wait for you to do this????" in a *****y tone,so i said with a smirk "ohhh... anything for you!" and she gave me a dirty look and walked off lol

so more of this is needed? whenever i dont say hi to her and ignore that she's there,she always says something like "too cool to say hi to me i see..."

am i doing anything right there? i havent had alot of experiences with hotties,ive dated less attractive girls and i have no problems with them
 

GloriouslyInsane

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She's pouring the **** tests,try to help others but not her that much.Try to make her do something for you first before you help her.Yeah keep the c+f up.


I would strongly advice to just drop most except the most basic communication with her cause you're fighting an uphill battle (in an LTR,sees you as an afc) in mud up to you waist (trying to pick up a girl you work with)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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