European-DJ
Master Don Juan
How many dates max. Before you fvck her?
Let mé know your thought and an explanation.
Regards
Let mé know your thought and an explanation.
Regards
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
When is it a waste of time?
- Thread starter European-DJ
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
3) "Three Strikes and You're Out".
If she hasn't put out in the first three dates, DUMP THAT *****!
Tom Leykis http://www.leykisonline.com/portal/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=450
If she hasn't put out in the first three dates, DUMP THAT *****!
Tom Leykis http://www.leykisonline.com/portal/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=450
No hard and fast answer since it depends on your other options. But generally 3 dates max if your balls are still intact.
And I don't like to use the word "dates" since I haven't really been on many in the last year or so, random fvcking seems to happen without even needing them, and I don't give a sh!t about being in a relationship at present.
The only exception for me has been chicks from work - 2 of them it was several weeks of gradual escalation by e-mail / text while I reeled her in (mainly to ensure that I didn't go too far ahead of her to avoid a sexual harassment lawsuit). The other I fvcked in the sick room 2 days after she first e-mailed me.
You need to make sure you plan logistics to get here back to yours or her place by the second date latest (if you don't, you need to work on logistics or she justisn't interested). Then it will either happen or it won't.
If it doesn't, then one more date (the 3rd one) gives her one more chance to prove herself (i.e. a 2 strikes rule for banging her).
You may occasionally (if you are short on options, or don't plan your logistics properly) exceed the 3 date rule, but only in extreme circumstances.
As an example, I cast my mind back to the last 10 girls I banged (excluding at work), and these are the results:
* 7 - I banged the first time I met her.
* 3 - I banged the second time I saw her (only one of which the first time we met was an actual date).
What this highlights is that attraction is not a choice. If a girl is into you and you plan logistics properly, it will generally happen pretty quick.
Whereas if a girl is NOT into you, seeing her more time or taking her out on more dates will generally achieve nothing.
And I don't like to use the word "dates" since I haven't really been on many in the last year or so, random fvcking seems to happen without even needing them, and I don't give a sh!t about being in a relationship at present.
The only exception for me has been chicks from work - 2 of them it was several weeks of gradual escalation by e-mail / text while I reeled her in (mainly to ensure that I didn't go too far ahead of her to avoid a sexual harassment lawsuit). The other I fvcked in the sick room 2 days after she first e-mailed me.
You need to make sure you plan logistics to get here back to yours or her place by the second date latest (if you don't, you need to work on logistics or she justisn't interested). Then it will either happen or it won't.
If it doesn't, then one more date (the 3rd one) gives her one more chance to prove herself (i.e. a 2 strikes rule for banging her).
You may occasionally (if you are short on options, or don't plan your logistics properly) exceed the 3 date rule, but only in extreme circumstances.
As an example, I cast my mind back to the last 10 girls I banged (excluding at work), and these are the results:
* 7 - I banged the first time I met her.
* 3 - I banged the second time I saw her (only one of which the first time we met was an actual date).
What this highlights is that attraction is not a choice. If a girl is into you and you plan logistics properly, it will generally happen pretty quick.
Whereas if a girl is NOT into you, seeing her more time or taking her out on more dates will generally achieve nothing.
Depends on the girl and what you're after. If you just want to fvck her, then you won't want to be chasing her for months. But if you're looking for a relationship, then I think it's a very good sign if she makes you wait for sex. It shows she has some class and won't just jump into bed with any guy.
European-DJ
Master Don Juan
Thanks to all of your for the answers.
- I seem to get stuck with girls, sometime there is 5-8 meetings before i bed them, why?
Because i am always surtain that "the next time will be it".
- I seem to get stuck with girls, sometime there is 5-8 meetings before i bed them, why?
Because i am always surtain that "the next time will be it".
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Equilibrium
Don Juan
I think it varies from girl to girl, but you need to watch out you're not investing in someone too much without reciprocation. 3 is a good standard, but I think that if a girl is getting real close with you and you can tell she wants to have sex but is holding back out of legitamite and very real religious beliefs then you can cut her some slack. Then again you have to be sure those beliefs are for real, because she might have nailed some guy at a foam party in Cancun 30 minutes after meeting him (yeah yeah, I read too much Rollo) and she's just using this excuse on you. If a girl tells me she's a virgin, I am willing to wait a lot longer but at the same time I will not commit to her unless I know the relationship can go somewhere fast. And that's never happened.
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
Put it this way, with just average Game, in 3 dates you should be able to determine if her desire level is high enough to want to ƒuck you.
In 3 dates you'll know if her desire is genuine or if it's mitigated by something else – another guy in rotation, sexual hangups, filibustering, etc.
In 3 dates you'll have had sex or you'll have had the "I wanna wait / I need to be comfortable talk."
If you have sex on the 1st date or a SNL, she's really hot for, and into, ƒucking you based on physical criteria alone.
If you have sex on the 2nd or 3rd date, she's into ƒucking you and probably wants a relationship because she wanted to give you a token impression of her not being 'easy'.
If she ƒucks you after the 4th date, you'll do as her first alternate.
If you're sexless after 5-6 dates you've probably been at it for over 6 weeks and The Medium is the Message. NEXT.
In 3 dates you'll know if her desire is genuine or if it's mitigated by something else – another guy in rotation, sexual hangups, filibustering, etc.
In 3 dates you'll have had sex or you'll have had the "I wanna wait / I need to be comfortable talk."
If you have sex on the 1st date or a SNL, she's really hot for, and into, ƒucking you based on physical criteria alone.
If you have sex on the 2nd or 3rd date, she's into ƒucking you and probably wants a relationship because she wanted to give you a token impression of her not being 'easy'.
If she ƒucks you after the 4th date, you'll do as her first alternate.
If you're sexless after 5-6 dates you've probably been at it for over 6 weeks and The Medium is the Message. NEXT.