"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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When is age just a number?

Effington

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Let me preface this by saying that I am not looking for a relationship in this situation, but I've been on somewhat of a dry streak so kind of need some action.

Anyway, this one's a girl that works at the same company as me. She's in accounting and I'm in operations (we don't even work on the same floor), but we work together for end of quarter reporting, so lately we've been in a decent amount of contact with each other.

She seemed like a pretty down to earth girl and we got along pretty well (she just started recently), she invited me to this party yesterday and it was very cool. We were talking with each other pretty much the entire time and she was pretty flirty.

So far I'd have no problems, but here's the kicker: she's a lot older than me. I'm 25 and she's closer to 40. She's single, no kids, never been married, seems pretty normal...I was actually really shocked when I found out how old she was, because she acted much younger than her age. She looks pretty damn good for it, too.

So I ask you guys...is age just a number? I'm not necessarily saying I'm gonna marry the girl, but I kind of want to hit it.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Bible_Belt

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When is age just a number?

When you're fvcking. For age 18-60, sex is about all the same. But after the sex is over, age starts to become more than just a number very quickly.

hit it, but remember that it is just sex. There is no hope or point to a LTR with a woman 15 yrs your senior. She knows this as well as we do.
 

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Enjoy it and don't think so hard. Oh, and don't think she can't get pregnant. Wear a raincoat.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Effington said:
...So I ask you guys...is age just a number? ...
Only when you are comfortable enough that you don't consider it part of the equation.
 

jophil28

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A woman of that age has been around the track a couple of times. She has her "act" down pretty good with men ( or so she believes) so remember that she sees you as easy meat.
If I were you, I would see this as a great opportunity to practice your DJ skills with the C&F and all...
She is interested in you ( she invited you to a party outside the company ) so she is creating 'the opening ' - this is how women operate in the early stages.
However, remember that she will believe that you are putty in her hands .She may act all sweet and girly BUT women of that age grew up believing that they are the reason that the universe exists.
Play hard to get , be " a man among wussbags " and you can call this one any way you please..
Good hunting.
 
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Effington said:
,..she's closer to 40. She's single, no kids, never been married, seems pretty normal...
This is quite abnormal, especially if she is average to good looking! She must be eating her mates - be careful!! :rolleyes:
 
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DO NOT have relations with women at work.

This has been discussed many times and it is not a good idea for a variety of reasons.

And, if yor are becoming attracted to women at work, it means that you are not getting out enough and meeting women.

Nothing wrong with older women, but not this one. She is a co-worker and years and years of experience by many, many people says that this is a bad idea for many, many reasons.

Get out in the field and start meeting women.

BTW, nothing wrong with a 40 year old woman who has never married or had kids.

I met one the other night who is wealthy, independant and never had the desire to have children, get married or any of that stuff because she enjoys travelling and doing her own thing, one of which is getting together with me later this week.
 

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Do not date women at work; it creates immediate and long term drama...not worth the hassle.

If you must do it, do not get involved emotionally. Enjoy the experience for what it is; but do not become attached (you or her).
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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mintxx

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she's a lot older than me. I'm 25 and she's closer to 40. She's single, no kids, never been married, seems pretty normal...

I call closet nutcase on serious medication. Just a feeling
 
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