"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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When is age just a number?

Effington

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Let me preface this by saying that I am not looking for a relationship in this situation, but I've been on somewhat of a dry streak so kind of need some action.

Anyway, this one's a girl that works at the same company as me. She's in accounting and I'm in operations (we don't even work on the same floor), but we work together for end of quarter reporting, so lately we've been in a decent amount of contact with each other.

She seemed like a pretty down to earth girl and we got along pretty well (she just started recently), she invited me to this party yesterday and it was very cool. We were talking with each other pretty much the entire time and she was pretty flirty.

So far I'd have no problems, but here's the kicker: she's a lot older than me. I'm 25 and she's closer to 40. She's single, no kids, never been married, seems pretty normal...I was actually really shocked when I found out how old she was, because she acted much younger than her age. She looks pretty damn good for it, too.

So I ask you guys...is age just a number? I'm not necessarily saying I'm gonna marry the girl, but I kind of want to hit it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Bible_Belt

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When is age just a number?

When you're fvcking. For age 18-60, sex is about all the same. But after the sex is over, age starts to become more than just a number very quickly.

hit it, but remember that it is just sex. There is no hope or point to a LTR with a woman 15 yrs your senior. She knows this as well as we do.
 

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Enjoy it and don't think so hard. Oh, and don't think she can't get pregnant. Wear a raincoat.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Effington said:
...So I ask you guys...is age just a number? ...
Only when you are comfortable enough that you don't consider it part of the equation.
 

jophil28

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A woman of that age has been around the track a couple of times. She has her "act" down pretty good with men ( or so she believes) so remember that she sees you as easy meat.
If I were you, I would see this as a great opportunity to practice your DJ skills with the C&F and all...
She is interested in you ( she invited you to a party outside the company ) so she is creating 'the opening ' - this is how women operate in the early stages.
However, remember that she will believe that you are putty in her hands .She may act all sweet and girly BUT women of that age grew up believing that they are the reason that the universe exists.
Play hard to get , be " a man among wussbags " and you can call this one any way you please..
Good hunting.
 
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Effington said:
,..she's closer to 40. She's single, no kids, never been married, seems pretty normal...
This is quite abnormal, especially if she is average to good looking! She must be eating her mates - be careful!! :rolleyes:
 
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DO NOT have relations with women at work.

This has been discussed many times and it is not a good idea for a variety of reasons.

And, if yor are becoming attracted to women at work, it means that you are not getting out enough and meeting women.

Nothing wrong with older women, but not this one. She is a co-worker and years and years of experience by many, many people says that this is a bad idea for many, many reasons.

Get out in the field and start meeting women.

BTW, nothing wrong with a 40 year old woman who has never married or had kids.

I met one the other night who is wealthy, independant and never had the desire to have children, get married or any of that stuff because she enjoys travelling and doing her own thing, one of which is getting together with me later this week.
 

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Do not date women at work; it creates immediate and long term drama...not worth the hassle.

If you must do it, do not get involved emotionally. Enjoy the experience for what it is; but do not become attached (you or her).
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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mintxx

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she's a lot older than me. I'm 25 and she's closer to 40. She's single, no kids, never been married, seems pretty normal...

I call closet nutcase on serious medication. Just a feeling
 
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