"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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When does the relationship start before or after the lay?

Senza

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I notice that people on this site claim women who they have not slept with as their girlfreinds, bringing up questions on how to solve problems to relationships that I personally dont think exist.
Have guys noticed the divide on here about what a relationship consists of is it a woman who has been laid or a woman who has been moochin of you for the past number of months and lets you call her girlfreind infront of YOUR freinds.

My contention is if you have not had that intimacy that comes with sex, that power transfer that comes will all those notions, you should not ask us how to patch a non-existent relationship.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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spider_007

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depends on what type of relationship:

bf/gf----> when you agree to be exclusive
 

Black_Italian

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For me she becomes my gf officialy when i c*m in her mouth. Till then she is just a girl im seeing.
 

DonJuanMonk

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Originally posted by Black_Italian
For me she becomes my gf officialy when i c*m in her mouth. Till then she is just a girl im seeing.
I think you've been living in porno-land a bit too long.
 

Gangster Of Love

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Originally posted by DonJuanMonk
I think you've been living in porno-land a bit too long.
LoL. Ha.

Relationship starts after you've laid her and she's asked you to be exclusive and you've agreed.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Black_Italian

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Lol gangster of love is right. When she asks you to be exclusive and you agree.
 

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I had sex with my ex-girlfriend on the first date(btw that really tells you a lot about a person) ...I never really thought of it as a relationship; let her make up her mind when the relationship begins. Just act like a relationship is the last thing on your mind and she'll be on her knees begging you to be with her!
 

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Originally posted by Austizzle
I had sex with my ex-girlfriend on the first date(btw that really tells you a lot about a person) ...I never really thought of it as a relationship; let her make up her mind when the relationship begins. Just act like a relationship is the last thing on your mind and she'll be on her knees begging you to be with her!
Sure, why not.

Either way.......as long as the sex is very good, shell be chained no matter where u stand.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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What's a relationship? :confused:
 
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Sex really has no direct relationship to the state of things between you two, emotionally-speaking. The first girl I loved was in a serious relationship with me for well over a year before we had sex. We had sex after the relationship was actually shot to **** and we were about to break up. Another girl slept with me months before we became exclusive because she really liked me. So on, so forth.

Its not that the lay controls whether or not a relationship has started. It shifts the power massively though. Upto the point where you've had sex, the woman holds the cards. After that point, she's lost everything she could have possibly given you. Keep in mind, this doesnt hold true for girls who put out easily. I have no freaking clue what they think they have to offer after that point, especially if they aren't gifted with great personalities.
But for your standard girl who holds off on the sex for a while, theres a bit of a trust issue coming into place. With this kind of girl, once you reach the sex phase, she's told you that she trusts you, etc, thus solidifying the relationship.

Another version is that she really wants something with you, so she'll give you what you want in the hope that things solidify into a relationship.

Or you're just freaking good with foreplay, so she cant hold back.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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frivolousz21

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sex has no connection to love for males.

so for you it means nothing.

for her she gets something out of it.

if you want an LTR I would wait till you love her or are close to it.
 
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