When do girls become as "evil" and selfish as they are described by red pill?

[guru1000]

Well actually I'll focus on money. I just started flipping houses. Hope to do 20 of them in 2018 and every year after that. That's crazy money.

I don't really know how to "focus" on looks. I can't get taller. I can't change my face.

As far as status, I'm still not even sure what that is. Does that even exist after high school/college? I'm the sole owner of my company. Does that give me "status?"

How exactly are you buying the houses: private transaction, auction, REO, short sale?

As for SMV:

• Place platforms in your shoes, you will gain 1-3 inches;
• Work out, diet, cardio (see Health and Fitness center);
• Many things you can do for the face, depending on how far you wish to go. You can start with the basics: grooming, stylish clothes, skin care (chemical peels, retin-a, vampire facials). If you want to go further than this, you can PM me;
• As for how to create the image of status (which requires money), that is a thread of its own. My status is exemplified by my toys: exotic car(s), watch(es), duplex penthouse, and frequenting high-end lounges where everyone knows me.

Every SMV "deficiency" can be corrected.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

It could be money, if you know how to utilize it for status hooks (i.e. exotic cars, high-end parties, etc.). However having experienced all three triggers of SMV (status, looks, money), extreme status comes in first place, but such status presumes you have an inner circle of or access to women who already know your status.

Looks is the primary motivation for attraction from hot women who do not know you.

Enhance all three triggers, but for ease and consistency focus on looks.

What was your status?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

She can grow a new life inside of her.

Plenty of women are higher value than men in a very real sense.

There are more stupid failures with penises than vaginas.

Just because 10% of men achieve great things which women don't does not allow you to piggy back them.

Yes, when hurricanes hit men are valued because they can move heavy **** better than women.

That isn't representative of 99.9% of life.

What is that "real sense?"

Male and female both contribute 50% to the creation of a new life. The whole "women make babies" argument is invalid.

So what is the real sense? Their multitasking ability? That's the best answer we've come up with so far.

It doesn't have to be a hurricane. The police and military are male. Females only do the easy jobs. Nobody takes female cops seriously. Not even male cops.

It is sometimes mentioned on this forum that modern society allows beta makes to make lots of money working office jobs, etc. Modern society also allows females to make money. By nature, they can't survive without males.

Females evolved to have "beauty" in a desperate attempt to convince the males of the species to keep them alive and impregnate them.

 

[AJ84]

What is that "real sense?"

Male and female both contribute 50% to the creation of a new life. The whole "women make babies" argument is invalid.

So what is the real sense? Their multitasking ability? That's the best answer we've come up with so far.

It doesn't have to be a hurricane. The police and military are male. Females only do the easy jobs. Nobody takes female cops seriously. Not even male cops.

It is sometimes mentioned on this forum that modern society allows beta makes to make lots of money working office jobs, etc. Modern society also allows females to make money. By nature, they can't survive without males.

Females evolved to have "beauty" in a desperate attempt to convince the males of the species to keep them alive and impregnate them.

If you don't think women have any real value, then why are you here? Why ask for advice on dating or women's behavior etc? Why chase something that holds no value to you? Why would you even care? Just build your millions that you keep posting about and pay a hooker to scratch the itch every now and again.

 

[Urbanyst]

The only only thing that could make a guy go full red pill dweeb mode is constant rejection and mistreatment by women.
But if every time you get with a girl she dogs you I guarentee the issue is you, not the whole gender..

Majority of women are really laid back and cool if you just chill and get to know them.
Sure there are a few crazies but that's the exception not the rule.

Right.. but most of us here want to date 8's, 9's and 10's.

See the problem?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

If you don't think women have any real value, then why are you here? Why ask for advice on dating or women's behavior etc? Why chase something that holds no value to you? Why would you even care? Just build your millions that you keep posting about and pay a hooker to scratch the itch every now and again.

So tell me what is their value? It doesn't matter what I think. It matters what is the truth.

 

[AJ84]

So tell me what is their value? It doesn't matter what I think. It matters what is the truth.

Does it even matter to you? I could list things but you will just argue against them as you have been doing with others on this thread.

You see what you want to see, like many guys who have been affected by the more delusional and toxic aspects of what's being pushed as red pill. You want to confirm your own opinions and bias and that's human nature, to some extent we are all like that.

But when you consistently refuse to see it from a perspective that doesn't feed into your confirmation bias, you face problems that in the end only hurt you.

You made it clear on this and other threads how you feel about women, which is a negative view. You argue this point time and again with others on the site.

Instead of trying to convince others that women have no value, while also posting threads asking for advice on how to successfully date women, you should ask yourself, would you want to date someone who didn't think you had any value? Would you even want to invest a second of your energy on someone who didn't think you had any value?

 

[AJ84]

Listen, you aren't going to get the truth by listening to some broad on the sosuave forum, who has no idea.

You get the truth only in set. And that experience can't be gaslighted away from you.

So, get in set. Stop worrying about what idiots think. And then just follow those that you know are on the level, based on what you are experiencing in set.

Because I'm reading so much fvcking nonsense right now, it's a joke. Get fvcked (literally - and not you, but in general). We'll converse on that basis, nothing more.

Right, because as a female I have no idea about females. That makes sense. I'll remember that the next time women are looking advice on how to deal with men but don't want to actually hear that advice from men.

If you are frustrated with what's being posted here then give him advice on how to successfully date and get loyal affection and commitment from women he sees as useless, because that's he seems to want. Maybe you have some success stories around that to share with him?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Does it even matter to you? I could list things but you will just argue against them as you have been doing with others on this thread.

You see what you want to see, like many guys who have been affected by the more delusional and toxic aspects of what's being pushed as red pill. You want to confirm your own opinions and bias and that's human nature, to some extent we are all like that.

But when you consistently refuse to see it from a perspective that doesn't feed into your confirmation bias, you face problems that in the end only hurt you.

You made it clear on this and other threads how you feel about women, which is a negative view. You argue this point time and again with others on the site.

Instead of trying to convince others that women have no value, while also posting threads asking for advice on how to successfully date women, you should ask yourself, would you want to date someone who didn't think you had any value? Would you even want to invest a second of your energy on someone who didn't think you had any value?

So you're so sure that their value exists, and you know what it is, you just won't tell me?

I am pretty sure you just can't name it, either. Even the girl on this forum could only come up with "multitasking." That's pretty pathetic of a value.

Aside from sex, reproduction, "looks," and (in theory) the ability to raise children, what do they have?

They don't have the same real value that men (should) have, so they have to compensate with looks and whatever other B.$. they can come up with.

If you know what it is, you should be able to tell me right now. Don't pretend that you're withholding something from me.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Right, because as a female I have no idea about females. That makes sense. I'll remember that the next time women are looking advice on how to deal with men but don't want to actually hear that advice from men.

If you are frustrated with what's being posted here then give him advice on how to successfully date and get loyal affection and commitment from women he sees as useless, because that's he seems to want. Maybe you have some success stories around that to share with him?

Yes, you are most likely delusional about your own value. Why don't you tell me what it is for you specifically or in general?

You most likely know little to nothing about the world.

 

[AJ84]

Ok I'll take the bait Frog.

Women tend to have keen intuition and the ability to create and foster social connections and support, which requires pretty good social skills and emotional intelligence. Not all women have this and many men have it too but if you look at the social support women have as compared to men, especially in later life, women tend to have more of it which leads to better social determinants of health and mental well-being.

Women are more open to seeking and providing support, in general, when it comes to emotional and mental well being. I think this openness and willingness to seek and provide help is a value, especially when you consider the statistics that more men commit suicide than women.

Women tend to live longer than men, so perhaps there's some biological value there.

Women's social skills, emotional IQ, and intuition are relevant in work situations where team work and cooperation is required. In fact many job interviews now include scenario bases questions to determine someone's level of emotional IQ.

If we are comparing value across genders, as you have done on this thread, I think some of the main areas where men have the upper value advantage, so to speak, is around physically ability. Men are physically stronger than women, with some variance. I also think men are more logical in many areas which is a value in the workplace, if you think of problem solving.

In terms of academics and being 'book smart', I would say it's about the same, again with some variance. Women have achieved great academic success in many fields normally considered men's fields such as mathematics and engineering. Men have also achieved great success in areas that are considered women's fields,such as teaching. Some of the best teachers I had in high school have been men.

I think women have some values that are generally higher than mens' and vise versa, but ideally they should compliment each other. That's what I think people should look for in a relationship, look for the value and see how it compliments your own for the benefit of both of you.

The problem is when you paint everyone with the same brush and don't see any value.

 

[AJ84]

I'm sorry, how many women have you dated? How many have you got a compliance test from? How many sets have you fallen on your face, and how many have you fvcking owned?

None. So don't take the piss. I can just ask my dear old mum when I want to hear a woman's opinion, anyway.

A man with experience is never at the mercy of a man (or woman, present company graciously accepted, I'd kiss your hand and remove my hat... but it's the internet) with a theory.



Fvck it. Who even cares? When the nonsense gets to a certain level, I certainly don't.

Go in set and find out for yourself. I'll speak to you henceforth. Not going to validate anything to idiots anylonger.

Women experience failure with men too. It's not all Roses and Pinot Grigio over here. We all (men and women) have feelings and egos and they sometimes get trampled on.

But I get your point about just going out and doing and finding out for one's self, which is what Frog should do, but having some insight into the vibe he sends out to women is kind of crucial to having them want to stick around. I mean he posted in this very thread that women want to stay pretty and have babies so men will keep them alive (like its the Stone Age). If that's the kind of stuff that he opens with, may as well tell women that the earth is flat and aliens control our thoughts.

 

[AJ84]

Listen Mrs, I think that women have it much worse.

I love being a man. I indulge in it. You won't hear no complaining from me on this.

It takes a sh*t load of social conditioning for a guy to start complaining about being a guy lmao.



Honestly, he can believe that all he wants, but it won't as much difference as you probably think when he meets a seriously beautiful woman (at least not at first).

I approached a woman yesterday that actually made me feel like I'd been struck by lightning. Do you reckon that I was thinking about pure theory during? Give over.

Just even thinking challenging thoughts, and even trying to apply and experiment in a set will be of significance. It will drag him from one place to the other. And inbetween, he will find some sort of validity, and find something different in the dynamic.

That's how it works.

I didn't say women have it worse. My point is that women deal with stuff too.

It's been interesting going back and forth with you, though we have different opinions. No, I'm not a guy trying to date a woman but I am a woman who has dated men. My point really is to be open to seeing things from perspectives other than one's own in an effort to improve. I see from your perspective that just getting out there and taking action is important. I hope Frog can take that advice.

Best.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I didn't say women have it worse. My point is that women deal with stuff too.

It's been interesting going back and forth with you, though we have different opinions. No, I'm not a guy trying to date a woman but I am a woman who has dated men. My point really is to be open to seeing things from perspectives other than one's own in an effort to improve. I see from your perspective that just getting out there and taking action is important. I hope Frog can take that advice.

Best.

Do you think I've never left my house before? I most likely have more life experience than both of you put together.

Do you think that meeting someone at a bar is reality?

 

[cola]

Right.. but most of us here want to date 8's, 9's and 10's.

See the problem?

But most of us here arent 8' s, 9' s and 10s ourselves.. Why can't you be happy with a freaky 6-7 who does whatever you say?

 

[guru1000]

But if every time you get with a girl she dogs you I guarentee the issue is you, not the whole gender..

This is true to an extent. Though you will find most girls in the 9/10 club have developed extreme narcissism and selfishness due to the enormous validation and attention they receive on a daily basis.

Imagine, for a moment, that every day dozens of women were glaring, complimenting, approaching, texting, calling, and harassing you. Such attention would grossly inflate the perception of yourself, which effects:

1) The God complex: You are above everyone;
2) The Disposal Complex: Everyone is easily replaceable.

To navigate the 9/10 club successfully, you need to mirror their approach:

1) The God frame;
2) Spin plates.

Solid reply about becoming complacent with the low-hanging fruit (6s and 7s), and this is most likely the healthiest play for high-value men. However, to commit to a 6 or 7 for most high-value men--who structured their lives around having and being the best--is akin to settling for a minimum wage at McDonalds: It's settling and stress free but will leave you in perpetual depression and dissatisfaction.

 

[cola]

This is true to an extent. Though you will find most girls in the 9/10 club have developed extreme narcissism and selfishness due to the enormous validation and attention they receive on a daily basis.

Imagine, for a moment, that every day dozens of women were glaring, complimenting, approaching, texting, calling, and harassing you. Such attention would grossly inflate the perception of yourself, which effects:

1) The God complex: You are above everyone;
2) The Disposal Complex: Everyone is easily replaceable.

To navigate the 9/10 club successfully, you need to mirror their approach:

1) The God frame;
2) Spin plates.

Solid reply about becoming complacent with the low-hanging fruit (6s and 7s), and this is most likely the healthiest play for high-value men. However, to commit to a 6 or 7 for most high-value men--who structured their lives around having and being the best--is akin to settling for a minimum wage at McDonalds: It's settling and stress free but will leave you in perpetual depression and dissatisfaction.

But if we are talking settling down looks take a back seat.
Remember you plan on being with this person in your 50s.. Hardly anyone is hot in their late 50s..

So more important than her looks are
-Is she educated
-Does she spend money responsibly
-Ideally she has a high paying job as well and contributes..
-Does she/would she take care of you if you become sick
-Is she easy to deal with

If you just want to get laid by all means chase 8s, 9s and 10s..
But you'll find 8s 9s and 10s were too busy trying to stay hot so they didn't develop a lot of the above qualities..

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Ok I'll take the bait Frog.

Women tend to have keen intuition and the ability to create and foster social connections and support, which requires pretty good social skills and emotional intelligence. Not all women have this and many men have it too but if you look at the social support women have as compared to men, especially in later life, women tend to have more of it which leads to better social determinants of health and mental well-being.

Women are more open to seeking and providing support, in general, when it comes to emotional and mental well being. I think this openness and willingness to seek and provide help is a value, especially when you consider the statistics that more men commit suicide than women.

Women tend to live longer than men, so perhaps there's some biological value there.

Women's social skills, emotional IQ, and intuition are relevant in work situations where team work and cooperation is required. In fact many job interviews now include scenario bases questions to determine someone's level of emotional IQ.

If we are comparing value across genders, as you have done on this thread, I think some of the main areas where men have the upper value advantage, so to speak, is around physically ability. Men are physically stronger than women, with some variance. I also think men are more logical in many areas which is a value in the workplace, if you think of problem solving.

In terms of academics and being 'book smart', I would say it's about the same, again with some variance. Women have achieved great academic success in many fields normally considered men's fields such as mathematics and engineering. Men have also achieved great success in areas that are considered women's fields,such as teaching. Some of the best teachers I had in high school have been men.

I think women have some values that are generally higher than mens' and vise versa, but ideally they should compliment each other. That's what I think people should look for in a relationship, look for the value and see how it compliments your own for the benefit of both of you.

The problem is when you paint everyone with the same brush and don't see any value.

What I took from that is...

They are good at making social connections.

I can see that as having more value than their "multitasking" ability.

But I still don't think that is equal to the work that men put into making society run.

Police, military, construction workers, auto mechanics, truck drivers, utility workers, and even all the office jobs that females can do too like doctor, lawyer, accountant, etc.

 

[guru1000]

-Is she educated
-Does she spend money responsibly
-Ideally she has a high paying job as well and contributes..
-Does she/would she take care of you if you become sick
-Is she easy to deal with

Don't care about her money contributions, but I would hope most DJs have this as a minimum standard as well as no divorce, no kids, intact family with prominent father figure, intelligent enough, traditional-minded, inter alia.

But you'll find 8s 9s and 10s were do busy trying to stay hot they didn't develop a lot of the above qualities..

True for the majority, not all, of the high-end. However, an LTR with a woman whom doesn't prompt you to want to fvck her brains out will provide you limited happiness and, thus, is also transient if you grow bored. Been there a few times ... unfortunately.

Remember you plan on being with this person in your 50s.. Hardly anyone is hot in their late 50s.

Assumed here is LTRs last forever ... and happily ever after. This is certainly not the case in most instances: if not stopped by the former, then trapped by the latter. Best to accept relationships as transient by nature and enjoy the now.

Nothing wrong with shooting for high SMV in a woman ... if that is what you desire. Best choice ideally on looks and quality is somewhere in the middle between SMV acceptable and SMV best.

 

[AJ84]

What I took from that is...

They are good at making social connections.

I can see that as having more value than their "multitasking" ability.

But I still don't think that is equal to the work that men put into making society run.

Police, military, construction workers, auto mechanics, truck drivers, utility workers, and even all the office jobs that females can do too like doctor, lawyer, accountant, etc.

I think there are jobs that are better suited to men, like military for example. And there are jobs that are better suited to females, like nursing. I guess I'm a bit old school I don't know , but I do see both fields as having a very vital role in society. Now those are two fields have always complimented each other, nurses caring for wounded soldiers on the front lines back in the day. Both men and women risked their lives being out in the middle of those war zones doing what they needed to do. Those nurses and soldiers were pretty brave. Back then people didn't debate what was proper or PC or oppressive when faced with losing their freedom, both genders pitched in and did what they had to do for the betterment of everyone. I think a lot of that drive has been lost in recent times.