"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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When approaching a 2 or 3 set..........

Wiesman44

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When approaching a 2 or 3 set at a bar / club, should I approach with or without my wing ? Its my own fault for letting my AFC wing come along for the ride I guess. I'm the one doing all the initial openers.

From my past few experiences, it seems as though its hurting me. It doesn't help that they're AFC's. Yet, even if I had a competent wing, do any of you feel that I should be approaching these women by myself ? I know I can, its just a matter of having the unfortunate circumstance of having a 'tard as a wing right by my side.

I think I should be going at this alone.

I'm 6 ft, 200 lbs, 33 inch waist. I go to the gym and so my phsique is fairly impressive (or so I think ). My wings were 5'10 170, and 5'8 130-140. I think they'd just bring me down physically when approaching with them. Although I'd only take 1 wing w/ me when I went to approach.


Any thoughts ?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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vorbis

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slightly o/t but how successful are people in closing girls that they open in a set. 90% of my closes (number, kiss and f**k) have been in one to one situations. Say me and a wing chat up two girls, chat up a lone wolf. I've had convos with groups of girls before but am puzzled as to how you transition that to a close.
 
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