"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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When a woman is self-deprecating...

Lexington

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What have been your observations with women who are self-deprecating vs. self-aggrandizing?

In my experience, the hotter ones tend to be more critical of themselves. When we seek to improve ourselves, we have to be aware of flaws. So these girls tend to be genuinely hung up on some minor details sometimes.

On the other hand, the 6s and down have to talk themselves up. I guess you have to market yourself a little more aggressively when you have an inferior product. In my experience these broads tend to be more masculine.

That's what I've seen. How do your experiences compare?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Zerro

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Self-deprecating= low self esteem and fishing for compliments
Agreed, when someone depreciates themselves they're hoping for others to boost their ego for them.
 

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I have to disagree with alla youse.

If someone isn't a little self-deprecating now and then I don't trust them.

There's too much, there's too little, and there's nothing at all.
 

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my ex is about a 5 to 7, but very charming, very very submissive at first, would do anything. I would wake up with a cup coffee in my face. But as far as education goes, shes ridiculously good at educating herself, honor role every quarter. But she even told me once that she thinks she is a very average looking Chinese girl. In terms of a guy, im close to a ten. high metabolism raised healthily. But I feel like she would self deprecate herself a lot. When ever i became slightly distant from stress, or being tired from work, she would become very needy. Never ever cry or complain, or be the one to bring anything up. Just become distant. But then again, she grew up with her mother, a surgical nurse for the Chinese military, who would lock her in the bathroom with the light of for hours at a time, for minor things. But I would smoke a lot of pot, which she did not even really know what it was, and she didn't like **** like that.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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phillies

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This is why attention is the most important to women. All women are self depreciating, on different levels. Attention, or relationship is generally more important than sex. The greater the need for attention, the greater need for external appreciation, due to the lack of internal appreciation. Its human.
 

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"When a woman is self-deprecating..."

Roissy calls it perfectly: Beta Bait.
 
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