"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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When a wingmen brings you down....

Crissco

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I had a great night tonight, out of the half an hr I stayed a the club, but my friend was such a downer. Im trying to get him out of his shell. I had to do all the work my self. I got 4 pics with 10 different girls. Should I try to help this kid, or find a new wingmen who we can work togeather with and laugh about it on the way home?

Also, these girls wanted me to take my shirt off and take a picture of me. Rubbing my stomach, also, a girl bought me a drink and I asked for her number, she showed me her ring, and she was engaged. Why would she buy me a drink then deny me her number?

Maybe bc her friends liked me more and wanted the pictures badly?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Crissco said:
I had a great night tonight, out of the half an hr I stayed a the club, but my friend was such a downer. Im trying to get him out of his shell. I had to do all the work my self. I got 4 pics with 10 different girls. Should I try to help this kid, or find a new wingmen who we can work togeather with and laugh about it on the way home?

Maybe give him one more chance. We'll all had bad nights and/or nights where we completely froze up. But if you see that his is unwilling to improve, I'd find somebody else or just sarge alone.

Also, these girls wanted me to take my shirt off and take a picture of me. Rubbing my stomach, also, a girl bought me a drink and I asked for her number, she showed me her ring, and she was engaged. Why would she buy me a drink then deny me her number?

She was engaged dude. She doesn't want her fiance to see that some random guy called or texted her. She bought you a drink because you were fun and she enjoyed the attention.

Maybe bc her friends liked me more and wanted the pictures badly?
Sure. She may also have wanted to keep your around long enough to entertain her friends or even to help you get with one of them.
 

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If this continues to happen with your wing, then you need to get a new one or go out alone. It can take a lot of energy to work on your game (which is why so few guys have it), and if he is not interested in improving and being open to honest criticism, then don't wing with him anymore.

The girl bought you a drink, and you should be happy about that. There could be a number of reasons for why you didn't get the number, but who care? Just take the free drink and go approach some other girls.
 

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Mike32ct said:
I had a great night tonight, out of the half an hr I stayed a the club, but my friend was such a downer. Im trying to get him out of his shell. I had to do all the work my self. I got 4 pics with 10 different girls. Should I try to help this kid, or find a new wingmen who we can work togeather with and laugh about it on the way home?

Maybe give him one more chance. We'll all had bad nights and/or nights where we completely froze up. But if you see that his is unwilling to improve, I'd find somebody else or just sarge alone.

Also, these girls wanted me to take my shirt off and take a picture of me. Rubbing my stomach, also, a girl bought me a drink and I asked for her number, she showed me her ring, and she was engaged. Why would she buy me a drink then deny me her number?

She was engaged dude. She doesn't want her fiance to see that some random guy called or texted her. She bought you a drink because you were fun and she enjoyed the attention.

Maybe bc her friends liked me more and wanted the pictures badly?

Sure. She may also have wanted to keep your around long enough to entertain her friends or even to help you get with one of them.
Exactly, hes a good workout partner, and also got a big heart. Im going to give him another chanceHes nit really a social person though, which im trying to help him break out of his shell, not much I can do though untill he puts in the effort.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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