"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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When a girl has a boyfriend....

Heretolearn

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What do you guys do if a girl has a boyfriend.

All the girls I might be interested in taking out have boyfriends. When I ask them to meet up they generally resist my flirting then finally say I have a boyfriend but would love to meet up (lunch or go to the beach or something). I used to not care, flirt my butt off and let them make the choice, some I would have fun with and I would end up with.

After my recent pain (see my recent threads) I have re-evaluated that philosophy. Hence, what is the 'best' most mature thing to say and why.








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Some of you guys will know my woes from my previous threads (summary: had life shattered by woman, realised I am not the person I want to be nor living the life I want)

Perhaps from this I have bad karma. I have had three main relationships in my life (4 years, 1 year and 2 years (started when I was 18) (gaps of months in between).

The first two girls had boyfriends one about a week and the other around 5 years.

I now realise I am serving out my karma...........
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Next:

There are so many attractive single girls out there. Let the guy kill his own relationship. Its only a matter of time. Wait it out next find something else before you know it she will be free. You really want to be exclusive with a girl that will stray from home... or stray on you.. Fuk that.

I dont know why guys go for sloppy 2nd's, why waste your time. Too much work for such a little reward but hey if thats what you want go for it. Just dont get your ass kicked in the process
 

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It's not a good idea to try to date girls with boyfriends.

However, if you insist on it, I'll tell ya some ideal scenarios that'll get ya some play.

1. The girl is in a long distance relationship.
2. The girl admits to you that she's cheated on this bf or a bf in her past.
3. She complains about her bf and gets specific about certain things he does that she hates. You can capitalize on what he's not doing and do it for her.
4. She accepts when you ask her to your place to drink some alcohol and watch a movie.


It's bad karma if you choose to bang another dude's girl. (I'm guilty of it myself, so I've got something coming my way soon enough =\ )
 
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Originally posted by ER!C L!VE

1. The girl is in a long distance relationship.
2. The girl admits to you that she's cheated on this bf or a bf in her past.
3. She complains about her bf and gets specific about certain things he does that she hates. You can capitalize on what he's not doing and do it for her.
4. She accepts when you ask her to your place to drink some alcohol and watch a movie.
Those are all signs of a failing relationship. Give it time and she will be single. And OMFG if my girl did #4... It would be over so fast her head would spin.

#4 is how ive bedded a number of girls with ease.

Like i said give it time, nothing lasts forever you can count on this. Go find other game and keep your eye on her. When shes single move in for the kill. Don't bother if shes got another boy. Thats just asking for trouble. Especially if she rebounds back to him after being with you. Your the one thats gonna get played playa.
 

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good replies.

In my experience, I got bored with the girls who 'came with me'. They did not really like me but just jumped from a sinking ship, or so I feel. They told me they loved me and all that but I did not believe them.

I agree that in this cirucmstance you say no, clearly explain that it is because she is in a relationship now.

Maybe stay in sporadic contact if you must via email but nothing close.

If there is anything I have learnt from my past it is to invest your time in yourself as only this is a guaranteed return!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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