"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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When a girl calls you "friend," are you LJBF'd right away?

Double J

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I often hang out with this friend of mine that I met in my first semester in college. She owes a lot of credit to me for opening up to people in college, because i helped her to do so. I had her for three classes and i'd approach her to talk to her. Gradually she warmed up to me and to this day we are the best of friends. This is one of those girls that you can't help but find unique. She's probably the complete opposite of what i'd go for. I like girls with light features who are shorter than me, maybe average weight or slightly over. She has dark features, is tall and thin for the most part.

Last semester, I asked her to the movies, but the manner in which she responded made it seem like she didn't exactly know what I was doing. This girl is very inexperienced with guys. She came from South America maybe 3 or 4 years ago, so she's still trying to adjust to life and people here. But nonetheless I love that she's very bright and classy. Anyway I asked her out and she goes "Sounds good, let's see if Juan (good friend since high school) wants to join us. I know what you guys are thinking - c*ck block. But you could just tell that she's not experienced with guys - I think she just thought I was asking for a friendly outing instead of a date.

So I let it pass.. this semester she's been much closer, much more touchy, etc, but she still calls me "friend." I touch her on the shoulders, legs, hands and more, I bust on her like crazy and she responds laughing with "you're so bad," but in a way that seems like she likes that. I use c&f and she likes it. Still, she has a brother who also attends the college about her age, so she was apparently brought up to be very conservative and "aloof" when it concerns males.

I feel such a challenge with her - I want to get her to break out of the shell and be more sexual, because I have a hunch she's like that on the inside and WANTS to be that way but feels she's been brought up to act otherwise.

If a girl likes this one likes to get close, touch and whatever, but still calls you "my friend," do you have no hope?

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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Desdinova

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Last semester, I asked her to the movies,
Could have been the way you asked her. If you said, "Listen, um well, would you like to go see a movie sometime" then it creates an awkward situation. Now, if TOLD her "I'm going to see Ernest Goes To The Dump on Tuesday, wanna come?" you show your confidence and she knows you're going regardless of her decision.

Also, I wouldn't suggest a movie for a first date. Choose something a little more exciting than sitting in a theatre for 90 minutes staring at a screen.

If you want her IL to go beyond friend, flirt with all her friends (or other women in front of her). Let her see that other women desire to be with you, then back off on the time you spend with her. She'll start to want you around again.


Or, even better, start fresh and don't waste any more time on her than you already have.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Does she still swallow? :p
 

slickjesse

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women can refer to you as a friend up until you definitely have a different title. this means nothing. she still may (or may not be) interested in you.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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