"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Whats your social circle?

S0LID

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Whats your social circle like?
Whats your aim for it in the next 6 months?



At the moment my phone wont stop shaking. Im hanging with people who are introverted, friends who dont work and jus smoke all day :D, outgoing uni types who are always doing something crazy, business owner whos sucsessful, a player (slept with over 200 chicks, age 24), a girl (hb5), 2 college buddies. (i have a gd few more mates who I occasionaly chill with but these are the ones i bother with)

my aim is to get in with this group of guys who are all sucsessful with women who lift weights to. I've already met some of them a few times and we got on but i was with another guy who knew them. Their older than me but i dont think thats a prob. I got on pritty well with all of them. I actually added one to my msn today so this goal is nearly sorted.

My secondary goal is to get a few hot female friends, hb7 plus (uni maybe?).
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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GodsGiftToFatBirds

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Thats a good question.

For me, I could do to find some new mates to go out on the pull with. I've just finished university and when I was there, I had 2 very close friends who i'd hang out with all the time as well as a largish group of mates. But unfortunately now back home permanently, the group of friends I've got at home, although they're good mates, they're largely AFC and not into going out unless there's a big group of us.
Meaning I get nights like tonight where I'm not working and well up for going on the pull but can't find people to go with.

What I think is difficult with getting a better social life is getting mates from work or football or whatever into mates you arrange to hang out with or go out with outside those places, if you know what i mean.

Damn i was well up for going after some pu$$y tonight as well. I'm half tempted to drive down to the club at like half 12 by myself and just get on the dancefloor on the pull! It'll be rammed, there'll be some mates from work out and i could just say i've lost my mates somewhere if anyone asks.
 

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Haha, all you have to do is get their digits. Once you have their number talk to them in work, ask if their out on the weekend. Then txt them the night your out asking if you can tag because ur mates are being gay and wont go out.

Where in the UK you from? I've given up on clubs theres a massive male ratio in them nowday.
 

GodsGiftToFatBirds

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Haha i know yeh thats what I should have done.
I'll prob see em out anyway, i'm heading out in 5 mins cos i can't be arsed staying home.
I'm surprised what you say about the m/f ratio - I'm from Chester, its pretty much 50/50 if you go out here.
 

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three even worse g33ks (or dorks or whatever it is) then me. and that's it. :( and i haven't met anyone in months.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I got my niggaz, my playaz, my pimpz, my hoez, my dawgz, and my peepz. Really the only requirement to be in my circle is to be phat.
 

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Hmm, my social circle consists of about 60-70 people who I'll see at some time or another. Who the hell knows where it'll be in 6 months?

But friends are more important than that, these guys aren't going anywhere.
 

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HaHaHaHa you belive a guy that tells you he has slept with over 200 chiks. When did he lose his virginity 12?.........thats stupid

No offence to your Player friend but i dont like people who lie about there sex lives.
 

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Black_Italian you are straight up calling me a liar, I know the guy and you dont, that means you have no base for your accusations. The guy is one of my closest mates but nah you are right you know him better than me. People like you on the forum come and go pritty quick. I dont even know why I reply to some of the idiots on this forum.

He is very charasmatic guy which helps. He has soo many one night stands its shocking. I love the way he works with girls when he starts meeting them, hes this realy nice funny guy, then he shags them a few times and changes into this pr1ck :D doesnt return their texts then they fall in love :eek: last week this girl was phoning him crying saying shed drive 20 miles just to see him for half and hour he then bombed her out. That night he pulled the bar maid who was his sisters friend. This week hes also slept with this girl at the top of my street but that doesnt count cause he did her before a few times. He has recently discovered the internet :D once he gets his driving liecence back he'll be meeting loads off the net. I think his secret is living for today not tomorrow, steroids, nice cloths and a heart of ice :D.
 

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IF he lost his virginity at 16 and he is now 24..... 24-16=8 and if he got laid once every two weeks 8x24=192 VERY POSSIBLE (IF HE IS A NATRUAL.)


as for; "Whats your social circle like?
Whats your aim for it in the next 6 months?"

haw about; TO ACCUALLY GET A SOCIAL CIRCLE. haven't really met anybody new in years (other then a handfull of passing aquaintances) :( :down:
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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my local social circle consists of 3 guys.
1 is a total afc with a fat gf.
1 is a policeman who is always working
1 is broke and never goes out

I work in an office full of 30 year old women

I can't wait to start my new college course.
 

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I agree with you spider I have few aquaintances...most of the guys that i hang out with are usually out to snag something but once you put the alcohol in um they turn into life size penis's that ruin it for anyone around them. i.e. ignorant statements,comments,among other things. And virginia is pretty wack as far as the southeast...alot of "princess" type chicks here that want a husband not a one night fling...
 

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Lol its my player friend 25th today! Might be hitting the city, gonna analyse the **** outta him :) i wouldnt be suprised if he was shagging for the age of 14, I'll ask him later. he was based in Germany when he was in the army, i can only imagine the damage he done there :D.

If i do hit the city i'll be meeting that gang of guys up there too who I mentioned in my AIM.
 

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Can i ask why you looking for a HB7+ as a friend? Im not against it, i just want to know what youre plans are from having a friendship with a hot chick.

I got the chance to be friends with an HB9 as shes married but i dont really see the point in it for me.
 

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mine is crap

After being away at university, and travelling for the past few years, plus other people moving away, I have lost a lot of old mates.

Even people still around, I can't be bothered to hang around with them for various reasons.

and my remaining few circles, are either AFC's, have girlfriends and don't go out, or just go out to crap places.

The biggest joke is, i have loads of friends in other cities all over the UK who are far more along my wavelength, but i don't want to have to go to other cities, gonna have to build up my social circle here. Not to bothered right now, just concentrating on the gym, my dissatation and getting a proper job. I'm sure it'll come soon enough.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Not Quite There

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Originally posted by GodsGiftToFatBirds

I'm surprised what you say about the m/f ratio - I'm from Chester, its pretty much 50/50 if you go out here.
chester.... is the club you go to/work in called rosies or rbs by any chance?
 

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-You befriend hot girls and it becomes natural talking to them,

-you see how human they are (they are like superhuman in clubs but when you see them first thing in the morning, see their insecurities, see guys they like who aint all that),

-it's a good social proof. If girls see you hanging with girls who are better looking than them and you start talking to another grl saying "oh, I was meeting her before but i decided to stay friends your knocking your status up as she thinks your better than her and girls want what other girls want.

-You get to meet the hot girls friends. If nothing you befriend all her friends too, and so on.

The whole point of social proof IMO is to be a virus, you meet one person who introduces you to another who introduces you to another etc etc etc.

Anyone wants to chat add me [email protected]
 

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Ok SOLID i admit i could have been wrong. I dont know your friend and if he lost his virginity at 14-16 i guess it is possible, my bad man.

Anyway did you know they say the avarge man has 6 sexual partners in his lifetime. Your friend is way ahead.
 

Not Quite There

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Originally posted by Black_Italian
Ok SOLID i admit i could have been wrong. I dont know your friend and if he lost his virginity at 14-16 i guess it is possible, my bad man.

Anyway did you know they say the avarge man has 6 sexual partners in his lifetime. Your friend is way ahead.
i would put that down to a difference in generations.


I.e younger generations are shagging far more than older generations did.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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