"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Whats your opinion on getting back with EX if YOU were the problem?

Infern0

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Say some girl from a few years back who you were with but at the time you were AFC

If you can look back and see that you fouled up the relationship being needy and clingy or whatever.

Would you give it another whirl or nah?

(Btw not a reality based situation just wondered the concensus)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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PatientOne

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Only for a hook up. There is no way that I would put up with having crap thrown in my face, and you know that a woman will do that.
 

ImTheDoubleGreatest!

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It would have to progress naturally. Like I'm not doing **** for her unless she clearly wants it. Then we can start moving forward. But if she starts making fun of me NOW for how I was BEFORE, I'm out. Doubt that I would ever want to get with someone who knew me from way back when though.
 

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A few years ago?? It's over. Move on.

A few weeks ago, if you messed up, a real man owns up and admits when they are wrong. Avoid apologizing per se as it only makes a copy of whatever went wrong to begin with. Just say you regret the way you acted.

But you can't say that years later or you look like you're obsessed.
 

TheMonkeyKing

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Generally speaking, I'd say no. I read a long time ago, something about how it very rarely works out again in future, whatever the circumstances were for the break up. Usually one or both has truly moved on or the compatibility isn't there anymore, not for anything serious anyway.

I tried a few times to half-heartedly rekindle a couple of old flames, but would say it might work one time in ten. With absence and time and meeting other people comes experience and reflection. A break up happens usually for quite profound reasons and it's important to acknowledge those, especially for a man.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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AlphaNate

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Nope. She'll always know you as that chump. You don't want to inadvertently re-frame back to what you used to be.

Leave it.
 

sazc

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Even if you can look back and feel that you were the issue, there is still the relationship dynamic between the two people. The real question is - did both people grow in the interim. The problem is that you can truly only answer that for yourself.
 
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