"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
What's your guys success rate with cold approach
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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RangerMIke
Master Don Juan
The purpose of approaching women is to see if they are open to having sex with you. If they are.. you get their contact information and move things along. If they are NOT interested, you just walk away. There is no failure or success.
Not every woman will be interested in having sex with you. This is not a "failure" on your part. It just means the woman you approached does not feel you have something she wants. Women care ONLY about what you can do for them.
Who Dares Win
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If by success you mean how many girls are positive after you approach them againt it depends from many factors, obviously if its a 10seconds approach its your look and body language alone to be evaluated, if you put a bigger effort and talk for minutes your personality and game will have a say as well.
If my success you mean how many give you sex after being cold approched the answer is not many, about 2 out of 10.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
She might really have a boyfriend have had a bad day ot be on her period. All things that might blow you out of the water but actually have nothing to do with you.
So it's pretty much like trying to find a new job your job is to keep trying and not **** it up so badly that you get screened out and keep applying for lots of jobs.
DragonBlood
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approach: 100%
talk: 80%
numbers: 50%
dates (aka actually seeing them again): 10%
lays: <10%. Tricky though, because at this point the CA is over and the same rules as any date apply. SO if it goes well you would lay all of that 10% of the girls if you understand.
Another way of saying it is most of your numbers are flakes, but you should be sleeping or at least seeing one in ten of those woman you talked to again.