"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Whats your definiton of a "plate"?

Whats your defintion of a plate

  • A girl who i have contact with period

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A girl who I see regularly (talk/intimate)

    Votes: 7 58.3%
  • I'm a KBJ so a girl on myspace page is a plate to me

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Solomon's Defintion

    Votes: 3 25.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 2 16.7%

  • Total voters
    12

Solomon

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I see lot of guys talking about "plates" and such. I was just curious to know what your definiton of one was? is it a girl who you have contact with? someone you fcuk? date?

Personally I consider a plate a girl 1. That I've hung out with on one one basis. 2. There has been some level of intimacy

However unlike most I don't call them "plates" but girls on the roster (i.e.basketball team lol)

For me girls who I got numbers but haven't done the two things I just consider prospects

I'm just curious to know peoples definiton on this topic, since I've seen some guys claim they have 8 plates etc etc

Solo
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Furyguy

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My understanding of it: a girl that you have some interest in, with whom you either could, or will attempt to, transition into a serious relationship with.

So a girlfriend is not. A **** buddy is. A girl you have dated casually is. A friend is not. A casual acquaintance you plan on pursuing is. A girl who was already shot you down is not.

So basically not friendship in that there is a sexual aspect, but without any commitment yet. Pretty close to what you said.



But I don't use the term except for on these forums anyways. I think labels like this are stupid and just cloud your head with unnecessary theory bull****. They're great for teaching new guys the theory though!
 

bigjohnson

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If I'm not screwing her, she's not a plate. I have to have gotten in her pants more than once and still be maintaining contact with on a regular basis. If I can't call her up and set up a date that will end up in boinking within a week she's not a plate, she's a friend.
 

Smack

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To me, it is a girl I believe I have a reasonable chance of intimate relations with. Nothing has to be happening between us, we can be friends or just see her occasionally (but know that she fancies me). Obviously, not all female friends are plates, and neither is some girl that's all over me in at a club.
 

daygameguy

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A plate is a female you have an intimate relationship with. Sex may/may not be a part of your relationship yet, but its intimate, can lead to something serious (girlfriend/LTR).
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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