"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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What's your Biggest Down Fall With WOMEN??

Badmannaz

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Hey i wanted to probe some minds here...Alot of us want to know what it is we have problems with...I used to be "Invisible" to every woman...couldn't get ONE to save my existence a couple of years ago..Well i've graduated all the way up to "One night stands" i've had more than the average man...Meh....there over-rated (especially if u don't cVm) :rolleyes: lol but alot of us wonder what we need to improve...

Ask yourself...whats your biggest down-fall...

Now i don't have any problems "Getting women" or even "Having sex" I've learned the older you get the more willing women are to give up the Goods....I've always have had problems being the relationship type of guy...

And women Constantly tell me "I dont care about them"...And thats why The last woman that i came close to a relationship with said that I "dont care and don't want a relationship" and she was right...I just wanted the Nookie...so that's my problem....

But after awhile it really takes a toll on being a so-called "DJ"....i've definatly have the mentality and i'm comfortable...but i know i lack a relevant woman....

So whats your down-fall with women that you just can't over-come?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Sparky

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The initial approach if you're strangers, I think. I believe I've got plenty to offer in my own way, but I fall short in approaching them. I'm trying to build confidence and relax my brain when I talk to them so the conversation flows. I'm getting better, it's like they say, you have to practise at this.

What I find is that when I bump into a woman I think is really attractive, sods law it's at a time when I least expect it and it catches me off guard. And the moment always seems to evaporate without me doing anything.

Earlier for example, I took my cat to the vet, and on my way out, passed a very attractive woman about 10 years my junior (I'm 40). She was probably an 8.5/10. And she looked me up and down and leered at me in a cheeky way on the way past for a good few seconds. She had a small dog with her, and I couldn't even get it together to say "Nice dog" which would have been at least some sort of opener. I was so lost in my own thought.

Now if I'd seen her walking down the street, and had 20 seconds to think about it, I would have (without planning it too much) thought of opening up by mentioning her dog. But the way it happened at the vet, I probably had about 5 or 6 seconds - bam! There she is smiling at me and then she's gone (inside the vet). I didn't even get it together to go back in the vet for some reason, my brain just locked. I drove home with my cat (the cat did the gears and I did the steering wheel haha :woo:).

I'm an interesting guy, look young for my age, intelligent etc. and once I've got past this initial step I have no problem seducing women who are interested and keeping them at least for a while. But because women have usually come to me in the past in their way, I've never developed the skills of approaching them too well, never had to.

In retrospect (like I say, I'm 40) I could have had about 5 times the women if I'd also learnt how to approach women I don't know with a relaxed flowing conversation. Friends of friends I'm metting for the first time however are no problem, it's the strangers I have difficulty with.
 

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I have too many to name. But I rather not since there is no point in complaining about what I do wrong. All it's going to do is bring me down.
 

blueline

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My standards are high and I'm average. I get laid, but not nearly as much as I would if I dropped my standards a bit. I also fall in love with any pretty girl that bangs me.

That's bad.
 

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Definitely making it too easy for her
When I'm interested in a girl, I make it know right from the get-go, and since I get interested in a girl because of who they are not necessarily what they do, they've already 'earned' my attention by the time we talk. So being a challenge and someone that has to be earned/impressed is most difficult for me.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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LoneWolf

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i fall in love too fast, i get needy and too affectionate. especially if the girl is cute. sometimes i try so hard to put that sh1t aside so she doesn't run but it comes out eventually. so yeah, thats usually my down fall with women. too fast too soon.
 

f283000

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My biggest downfall with women is that I just can't find and get the women I truly want for a meaningful relationship.

I always end up getting women that give me signals and make it easy for me cause they already like me and have a crush on me. But I just can't get the ones that I have a crush on! Either their taken, or I'm not their type etc etc.

Maybe I shouldn't complain I should consider myself lucky to be attractive to women but for once in my life I would like to find a nice gal that I really like to just "fall in love with" without her being taken, me not able to get her etc.

I want a woman I can truly feel totally happy with rather than just another ons or short fling.
 

LoneWolf

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f283000 said:
My biggest downfall with women is that I just can't find and get the women I truly want for a meaningful relationship.

I always end up getting women that give me signals and make it easy for me cause they already like me and have a crush on me. But I just can't get the ones that I have a crush on! Either their taken, or I'm not their type etc etc.

Maybe I shouldn't complain I should consider myself lucky to be attractive to women but for once in my life I would like to find a nice gal that I really like to just "fall in love with" without her being taken, me not able to get her etc.

I want a woman I can truly feel totally happy with rather than just another ons or short fling.
amen!
 

ARrocket

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My biggest problem is putting in the effort to game them. I go to one of the largest universities in the damn country, there are girls everywhere.

But, as an econ major with lot's of math/stats, etc, there are hardly ever any (attractive) girls in my classes.

Parties? I'm not in a frat, and again, most ppl I meet aren't big into partying. Still, I manage to party if not every weekend, every other. But I don't make an effort to be overly social with girls I don't know. I usually just get drunk and talk to the same ppl over and over.

When I do meet a girl, she always has a bf. Sometimes I plow through, sometimes not.

When I do get a number, I'm so busy with hw during the week, and then it's the weekend...and the cycle continues.

I got game. I just don't use it :(
 

Badmannaz

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good replies and im glad to see some experience members come out and speak up thats good...f28000 man im basically in your shoes.....and AR i feel u i used to think having it and not using it was load of BS but most of the time i just stopped trying...just because it's like the chicks who want it will come the ones who dont "**** em" but i've tongued them all down from 9.5''s to 5's lmao!!

Sparky just fish if u have problems with women...meaning say something u would say to a guy passing....like "hey" and give a smile.. "having a good day?" we can only bait women....I have a philosophy "if i was supposed to have sex tonight i will" and it usually plays out when i'm a complete *******....

I also fall fast so thats an issue too...but i think the next woman should be something i've never had and something i could never get in the past....
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Doctrine Dark

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My biggest downfall? Never having the confidence to ask any of them out.

And, on the rare occasion where I've been introduced to a woman who was into me--had no idea where to take it after talking and hanging out with them for a bit. In other words, I don't know how to get laid.
 

Badmannaz

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Doctrine Dark said:
My biggest downfall? Never having the confidence to ask any of them out.

And, on the rare occasion where I've been introduced to a woman who was into me--had no idea where to take it after talking and hanging out with them for a bit. In other words, I don't know how to get laid.

Dude...when u want it....your gonna get desperate and start devising some master plan to get it..or....just keep fishin sooner or later you'll snag a catch
 

BlackMack177

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f283000 said:
My biggest downfall with women is that I just can't find and get the women I truly want for a meaningful relationship.

I always end up getting women that give me signals and make it easy for me cause they already like me and have a crush on me. But I just can't get the ones that I have a crush on! Either their taken, or I'm not their type etc etc.

Maybe I shouldn't complain I should consider myself lucky to be attractive to women but for once in my life I would like to find a nice gal that I really like to just "fall in love with" without her being taken, me not able to get her etc.

I want a woman I can truly feel totally happy with rather than just another ons or short fling.
This among other things is true for me as well
 

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approaching and getting dates is no problem. having them coming back for repeat business is what i have to work on.
 

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Doctrine Dark said:
My biggest downfall? Never having the confidence to ask any of them out.

And, on the rare occasion where I've been introduced to a woman who was into me--had no idea where to take it after talking and hanging out with them for a bit. In other words, I don't know how to get laid.

Same here, that and escalating. I've been in situations over the years where girls were into me, girls in my social circle who were attractive. But I was either too dumb (or too self conscious) to recognize they were into me, and did not escalate our interactions further.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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DonGorgon

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When i start liking them i treat them too well or too good.. and women women dont know how to be treated well they see it as the man being weak. I find it impossible to treat a woman like crap on purpose once I really like her..
 

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Good question and the answer was obvious to me.

If I could just treat the pretty girls that I like THE SAME EXACT way I treat
girls that I have NO interest in, I would be GOLD.
 

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DonGorgon said:
When i start liking them i treat them too well or too good.. and women women dont know how to be treated well they see it as the man being weak. I find it impossible to treat a woman like crap on purpose once I really like her..
The same thing happens to me. I want a woman who loves romance and who wants to be treated like a queen, the same way I want to drink the finest wine and drive the finest cars. Imagine a BMW that stops running because you like driving it so much.

I think it's because women get used by men who are out of their league, so if you actually like them they think you aren't good enough for them, even if you've dated much hotter women.

You love her
But she loves him
And he loves somebody else
You just can't win
And so it goes
Till the day you die
This thing they call love
It's gonna make you cry
I've had the blues
The reds and the pinks
One thing for sure

(Love stinks)


J Geils Band
 

Borknagar

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Ya know, men place too much of the blame on themselves and what "THEY'RE" doing wrong. But truth is, many guys are doing things the right way, but most women have the wrong types of feelings or thoughs. But most idiot so called "PUA's" like to say guys are doing this and that wrong(most PUAs are just good at marketing, most of them are in it for money, and lots of desperate guys have it) But in reality it's women that are going about dating the wrong way.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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