"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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What's with all these lame 'It's over for xxxCels' posts on here'?

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What's with all these ridiculous 'It's over for xxxCels' posts by the user 'MatureDJ' on here? He's literally posting them all the time on different forums here.

So what's the deal with these posts? It sounds like he's clueless about women and the game, he's got a lot of limiting, disempowering beliefs and a very dark/negative perspective towards women.

Is the indicative of what this place has become?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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corrector said:
He is rich, a millionaire by his own words, so he can afford to make posts like that as he has plenty of time.
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Why is he so bitter, jaded and clueless about women if he is a millionaire? And why come on this forum and b*tch and complain about them? If he can't get women with game and his personality, then he could simply buy sex and companionship instead since he's got plenty of money.
 
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The line was being said on a serious basis for different groups of incels on here a few years ago. MDJ began posting random stories and coming up with different combos of “-cels” as a joke and has kept it going for awhile now. It’s pretty harmless stuff.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Guitar_Whizz said:
Why is he so bitter, jaded and clueless about women if he is a millionaire? And why come on this forum and b*tch and complain about them? If he can't get women with game and his personality, then he could simply buy sex and companionship instead since he's got plenty of money.
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He has does do these things you are saying. He's really insecure about his height. He also has very strict standards on his race. He will not date outside of his race, so he can't use his JBW and get an ethnic gf/wife either. I think if he could use his money and get over 6 feet tall, and do a male makover and saw better traction with his "new look", then it would be different with him.

It's interesting that from the other members that visit escorts he's rather quiet about that. I guess the idea is he should not have to pay what other guys get for free. Even if you are a millionaire, if the only way you can get with a woman is to pay for it, then that gets old fast.
 
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Guitar_Whizz said:
Why is he so bitter, jaded and clueless about women if he is a millionaire
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Making money and knowing how to attract women are 2 different things.

If he can't get women with game and his personality, then he could simply buy sex and companionship instead since he's got plenty of money.
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Men on Sosuave don't want a woman's sex or companionship. Men on Sosuave want a woman's LOVE. And women hate to give love. Women don't mind giving sex for the right price if the man is decent looking, but they won't give love easily.

I'm sure 95% of men on Sosuave have enough money to go to Amsterdam and get sex from a woman in the red light district, but they don't want that. I'm sure 95% of the men on Sosuave have enough money to pay a woman for companionship, but they don't want that. Men on Sosuave want a woman to love them, to care for them, to call them up and have the woman say "I'm coming over to cook for you and then we can watch a movie and make love because I care so much about you"

As Coolio said in Gangsta's Paradise song: "Too much television watching got me chasing dreams....."
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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