"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What's up with this chick? (Flake meter is reading high)

wysiwyg6000

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So I've got this cute girl from online, she gives me her number, tells her to call her anytime (without me asking for her number). So, I take her up on the offer and call her a few days later and leave a VM. Well, like 5 days go by and she still didn't call me back, then she messages me...so I'm like, wtf, why didn't you call back? she claims she didn't get my message (which sounds like bull**** to me). I give her the benefit of the doubt and call again, and again leave a VM. Still no repsonse. Am I right to think here that this girl is probably a pathological liar/nutcase or is it just me? I spaced out my two calls like a week from another, so it's not like I'm acting like a needy *****, plus I don't talk to her online often to not be accessible.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I would just give up on this one, dosent seem like its worth the effort, if you try and call her 2 times, and she still dont return your call, she may be just playing you
 

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Women typically don't call you back when you first start out - so no surprise there. Just don't put as much effort into it - she may pick up the hint.
 

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dunno, I can't check my VM.. (can't get it set up) but then again..

You should NOT leave VM with girls.. ever!

other than that.. NEXT!
 

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Originally posted by Flyer
dunno, I can't check my VM.. (can't get it set up) but then again..

You should NOT leave VM with girls.. ever!

other than that.. NEXT!
out of curiousity, why shouldn't you leave VM? I used to not leave it, and would just call at an interval until I reached them...but one gir's psycho ***** mother actually got pissed off that I kept calling (a whopping 3x) and not leaving a message, so she said to stop calling and hanging up and that her daughter isn't interested (ouch!). Needless to say, I learned my lesson after that one.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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HI According to my experience these girls will do it again so it is best to leave them alone after 3 phonecalls and internet chat sessions.


lurker.
 

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here is the problem: you cared too much.

if a girl gave me her number and i did call and i got VM (yuck, soo old fashioned i should shoot myself), i'd leave a message and leave it as that. never to mention it to her again tilll....

she menstions it "hey i gave u my number, how come u didn't call"
me "check your VM beatch".
if she never mentions it, well then, it obvious her interest level isn't up to par, so it either u increase you attaction level, or run.

what you have done, is needy and AFC.
 

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Originally posted by Evangenlion
here is the problem: you cared too much.

if a girl gave me her number and i did call and i got VM (yuck, soo old fashioned i should shoot myself), i'd leave a message and leave it as that. never to mention it to her again tilll....

she menstions it "hey i gave u my number, how come u didn't call"
me "check your VM beatch".
if she never mentions it, well then, it obvious her interest level isn't up to par, so it either u increase you attaction level, or run.

what you have done, is needy and AFC.
I don't see how what I've done is needy and AFC, spacing out two calls over 1 week is not AFC...and it's called giving people the benefit of the doubt. I lost nothing by giving her a second call, if anything, I gained something by knowing she's a flakey ***** and that she's probably some attention *****. Considering that I've never IMd her first EVER, I'd say it wasn't totally unreasonable to think that she was interested. I just work with what's given to me.
 

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Originally posted by wysiwyg6000
out of curiousity, why shouldn't you leave VM? I used to not leave it, and would just call at an interval until I reached them...but one gir's psycho ***** mother actually got pissed off that I kept calling (a whopping 3x) and not leaving a message, so she said to stop calling and hanging up and that her daughter isn't interested (ouch!). Needless to say, I learned my lesson after that one.
Its not that you shouldn't..

VM is just like txt.. they can save it, play it to their friends, take it out of context.. etc

unless you have like a script ready when you get a VM message.. It's possible that you would get caught off guard and say something stupid(read:AFC)... just my 2cents
 

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VM is just like txt.. they can save it, play it to their friends, take it out of context.. etc

spot on :)

TEXT IS EVIL. better to talk on the phone and run game than text message.


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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Originally posted by wysiwyg6000
...Am I right to think here that this girl is probably a pathological liar/nutcase or is it just me? ...
whoa! slow down cowboy!

yeah, it's just you.

read the bible. Do we use "rtfb" or something? like "read the fvcking bible", right? Do a seach on "phone" or "call" or something similar in the bible.

1st. You're online. Dude earlier who said get out in the real world wasn't kidding. Online is for practice and because you're bored, and it's mid-week and a game isn't on, or something..

2nd. She won't call you. Many reasons for that.
And (3rd) she'll cover herself and say "I didn't get it". Standard.

Congenital liar? No more than the rest of us.

Who knows, though? She may be, but not based on any evidence you've showed here.

Like I said, slow down cowboy.
 
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