"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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What's up with this chick? (Flake meter is reading high)

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So I've got this cute girl from online, she gives me her number, tells her to call her anytime (without me asking for her number). So, I take her up on the offer and call her a few days later and leave a VM. Well, like 5 days go by and she still didn't call me back, then she messages me...so I'm like, wtf, why didn't you call back? she claims she didn't get my message (which sounds like bull**** to me). I give her the benefit of the doubt and call again, and again leave a VM. Still no repsonse. Am I right to think here that this girl is probably a pathological liar/nutcase or is it just me? I spaced out my two calls like a week from another, so it's not like I'm acting like a needy *****, plus I don't talk to her online often to not be accessible.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I would just give up on this one, dosent seem like its worth the effort, if you try and call her 2 times, and she still dont return your call, she may be just playing you
 

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Women typically don't call you back when you first start out - so no surprise there. Just don't put as much effort into it - she may pick up the hint.
 

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dunno, I can't check my VM.. (can't get it set up) but then again..

You should NOT leave VM with girls.. ever!

other than that.. NEXT!
 

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Originally posted by Flyer
dunno, I can't check my VM.. (can't get it set up) but then again..

You should NOT leave VM with girls.. ever!

other than that.. NEXT!
out of curiousity, why shouldn't you leave VM? I used to not leave it, and would just call at an interval until I reached them...but one gir's psycho ***** mother actually got pissed off that I kept calling (a whopping 3x) and not leaving a message, so she said to stop calling and hanging up and that her daughter isn't interested (ouch!). Needless to say, I learned my lesson after that one.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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HI According to my experience these girls will do it again so it is best to leave them alone after 3 phonecalls and internet chat sessions.


lurker.
 

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here is the problem: you cared too much.

if a girl gave me her number and i did call and i got VM (yuck, soo old fashioned i should shoot myself), i'd leave a message and leave it as that. never to mention it to her again tilll....

she menstions it "hey i gave u my number, how come u didn't call"
me "check your VM beatch".
if she never mentions it, well then, it obvious her interest level isn't up to par, so it either u increase you attaction level, or run.

what you have done, is needy and AFC.
 

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Originally posted by Evangenlion
here is the problem: you cared too much.

if a girl gave me her number and i did call and i got VM (yuck, soo old fashioned i should shoot myself), i'd leave a message and leave it as that. never to mention it to her again tilll....

she menstions it "hey i gave u my number, how come u didn't call"
me "check your VM beatch".
if she never mentions it, well then, it obvious her interest level isn't up to par, so it either u increase you attaction level, or run.

what you have done, is needy and AFC.
I don't see how what I've done is needy and AFC, spacing out two calls over 1 week is not AFC...and it's called giving people the benefit of the doubt. I lost nothing by giving her a second call, if anything, I gained something by knowing she's a flakey ***** and that she's probably some attention *****. Considering that I've never IMd her first EVER, I'd say it wasn't totally unreasonable to think that she was interested. I just work with what's given to me.
 

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Originally posted by wysiwyg6000
out of curiousity, why shouldn't you leave VM? I used to not leave it, and would just call at an interval until I reached them...but one gir's psycho ***** mother actually got pissed off that I kept calling (a whopping 3x) and not leaving a message, so she said to stop calling and hanging up and that her daughter isn't interested (ouch!). Needless to say, I learned my lesson after that one.
Its not that you shouldn't..

VM is just like txt.. they can save it, play it to their friends, take it out of context.. etc

unless you have like a script ready when you get a VM message.. It's possible that you would get caught off guard and say something stupid(read:AFC)... just my 2cents
 

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VM is just like txt.. they can save it, play it to their friends, take it out of context.. etc

spot on :)

TEXT IS EVIL. better to talk on the phone and run game than text message.


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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Originally posted by wysiwyg6000
...Am I right to think here that this girl is probably a pathological liar/nutcase or is it just me? ...
whoa! slow down cowboy!

yeah, it's just you.

read the bible. Do we use "rtfb" or something? like "read the fvcking bible", right? Do a seach on "phone" or "call" or something similar in the bible.

1st. You're online. Dude earlier who said get out in the real world wasn't kidding. Online is for practice and because you're bored, and it's mid-week and a game isn't on, or something..

2nd. She won't call you. Many reasons for that.
And (3rd) she'll cover herself and say "I didn't get it". Standard.

Congenital liar? No more than the rest of us.

Who knows, though? She may be, but not based on any evidence you've showed here.

Like I said, slow down cowboy.
 
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