What's up with girls and flaking

[JPlaya]

I thought yes meant yes, but I didn't realize it was this bad.

 

[Tyson420]

Afraid to hurt your feelings.

It's cowardly, but that's how it is. Would you rather have an assertive chick or a cowardly one who would say yes to everything you do?

 

[TIC]

I think its stupid for women to give out their numbers but never follow up on it. You get their number send a few texts back and then she just stops responding. Why? Just don't give it out... you stupid b1tch

This is baffling to men. Men would never do such a thing. We are logical

On the other hand, a very large portion of men in this country need to gtfo because women have too many options which is the root cause of the flaking. Maybe if WW3 happens soon, we will become like russia and men will be in short supply because the rest died off in wars

Yup, it would literally take a world war for things to be fair in the dating scene for men

 

[Johnnyventana]

Some of these chicks that flake on you -- I think you really have to ask yourself if you actually like them, or just the idea of them. The reason I say this is that you may be motivated by different things. You may not really deep-down feel some connection, but you still want to fk her. She may also not feel the connection, but isn't looking to fk you. So for her, flaking is easy. She doesn't need your sex and doesn't feel a connection. So she has no desire to waste time. She's likely got other plates. Plate theory is very powerful because you are not beholden to the allure of nailing this specific broad. In other words, where guys may try to force a connection hoping to get laid, she doesn't need to. Her phone is ringing.

 

[TIC]

She may also not feel the connection, but isn't looking to fk you.

Well then now we are back to our original question-why give out the number in the first place if you have no interest?

You have to stop making excuses for women and admit that they are at fault for leading guys on. You don't like him? No connection? No attraction? Fine, but don't give out your number as if you actually are into him. It's bs and there's no excuse for it

You're past your 30's but when you were younger I'm sure you didn't have to deal with all this flaking. As a member of the younger generation I must tell you that flaking is the norm at this point. You can expect that MOST girls will give you their number, AGREE to go out with you, then make up an excuse to cancel. What young men must deal with today is a heavy heavy burden

 

[oxford comma]

its awkward saying no when someone asks for your number. if a guy that i have no interest hanging out with asks for my number to hang sometime ill give it to him just to get him off my case. i then proceed to ignore his texts until he gets the hint. i assume girls do this for the same reason.

 

[JPlaya]

I'd rather be ignored than some woman say yes and lead me on

 

[st_99]

What's up with girls and flaking

Bottom line. Options. They have more and so its easy
to change your mind a day later and say, meh, not
gonna bother with that guy. They know there is another
around the corner or already have plates spinning. If you
made enough of an impression, they wont flake that easy
but most of the time our interaction when getting a number
is average at best. You probably passed the initial test,
maybe she thought you were good looking, maybe good
personality, maybe your game was decent but the
impression wasn't that big a deal and so flaking was a
real possibility.

Options mainly.

 

[JPlaya]

well how you suppose to make a good impression if you can't get a date?

 

[Plec07]

well how you suppose to make a good impression if you can't get a date?

You make the good impresssion before the number close, so she actually does want to see you again. Make her want to hang out with you, not the other way around. She should be asking you when your free to hang, not the other way around. She should be begging you to free up your busy life to spend 1 precious hour with her just getting coffee so she can try and impress you and prove she is worthy of your attention.

Now I know the above is a bit exaggerated, but it's that kind of attitude you want. A girl won't flake on a guy who she actually wants to hang out with, because you left such an impression on her when she met you she just can't stop thinking about you and wants to find out more.

 

[Marvin Gaye]

I think its stupid for women to give out their numbers but never follow up on it. You get their number send a few texts back and then she just stops responding. Why? Just don't give it out... you stupid b1tch

This is baffling to men. Men would never do such a thing. We are logical

On the other hand, a very large portion of men in this country need to gtfo because women have too many options which is the root cause of the flaking. Maybe if WW3 happens soon, we will become like russia and men will be in short supply because the rest died off in wars

Yup, it would literally take a world war for things to be fair in the dating scene for men

Another thing for me, that's pretty much in the same vein, is when girls say OMG WE NEED TO HANG OUT

then you offer a couple dates and the excitement withers down. Man TIC that is a depressing thought, but I agree with you

 

[st_99]

well how you suppose to make a good impression if you can't get a date?

In all honesty, its really hard to make that good of an impression in a bar/club setting. You simply don't have the time or any kind of common bond other than drinking. Flake rates from bars are ALWAYS going to be sky high no matter what. For a lot of people its the only way to meet girls which is fine but you just simply need to accept that its a numbers game and you'll always have a low success rate getting numbers at bars.

If its a different setting its better, like some kind of hobby you both are into or maybe someone you see often through work or maybe she lives near you or she is a friend of a friend or whatever. Point being you'll see her enough time and you'll be able to show her more of you and have more of an investment, then the flake rate will be a lot lower.

So, if you can chat her up over the course of a handful of days (but don't go beyond that) THEN ask for her number, you'll have decent success with follow up. If you're chatting for a half hour at a bar, you're flake rate will be through the roof.

IMO, setting up situations where you are spending time with girls (for reasons other than because you asked them out) is THE BEST way to hook up with a girl.

Close proximity + time investment + working on something together + flirting = success.

 

[JdelaSilviera]

No Tic, you don´t need www3. Men just need to learn to live without sex, raise their standards, and stop pursuing any girl they talk to. If men continue to behave like horny dogs, women control will continue. The less care bout sex, the more you´ll have.

 

[Marvin Gaye]

No Tic, you don´t need www3. Men just need to learn to live without sex, raise their standards, and stop pursuing any girl they talk to. If men continue to behave like horny dogs, women control will continue. The less care bout sex, the more you´ll have.

Not all guys are lucky enough that they're born with game (or common sense), or reach epiphanys luck Sosuave and other sites; most are exposed to the BS of western America, treating women like Queens everywhere. It almost seems like a conspiracy to me; maybe I've got selective perception, but I notice many commercials about anything, usually involving a husband and wife where the wife is complaining about the husband being a loser, or it is subtly displayed in the sketch.

Generally I've found having your own amount of options, and truly not giving a **** about how you act (basically being a troll lol) puts you above other nice guys

 

[BlackMack177]

some of you guys are really over thinking this sh1t for real

Bottom line is that Girls, or people for that matter flake. And it is a sign of disinterest.

Peopel say yes to things all the time. it's hard to turn someone down to there face, so most people take the easy route and just flake before hand.

Not to mention girls/people's feelings change all the time. When they said yes they might have actually been revved up and ready to go, but when the time came to follow through they didn't feel like it any more.

If a chick doesn't want to hang out enough with you that she flakes and doesn't offer a counter date then forget her and move one to the next one. I follow the three strike rule. For some guys it's one strike, but I'm patient enough for three. if a chick flakes on you three times then she must not be digging you.The you either Make her sh1t or get off the pot

it's simply the nature of the beast. Have fun with it and don't take it too personal

 

[JPlaya]

I mean one date won't kill you. If you're that picky and indecisive about a date than how are you going to find a husband. Now wonder divorce rates have sky rocketed. I blame the females.