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You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

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What's up with chicks I said hi to in the past ignoring me later?

nando

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There is this chick I once struck up a convo with and it went ok. Next time when I see her she will look at me when are walking in opposite directions and quickly look to the side, instead of saying hi or what's up?
What the hell is up with that?
 

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Ever heard of the 3 second rule? If you didn't take action the first time, she assumses you are a chode and loses interest.
 

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This has nothing to do with the 3 second rule cuz i approached her before and we talked.
 

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What was her body language, facial expression indicating? She either didn't want to talk to you, or was shy. You should have just hi and then gauge her reaction based on that.
 

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Well her facial expressions was kind of neutral, like when we made eye contact she quickly glanced to the side and kept walking, we were walking in the opposite direction so it is natural we would see on another.
 

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Nando, sometimes women who have BFs do this too.
Also, sometimes women whom are shy and not used to intimacy with men are avoidant acting.

Perhaps you were tryig too hard with her?
Mayeb you gave too many IOUIs and SOIs ?
And she was uncomfortabel with it? So now she avoids you in order to not encourage you?

Nado, dude, look...if a woman is attracte to you, she will be a little more receptive to you.

If she is interestd in you, she will make it her businees to put hersel fin places where she will WANT you to talk to her.

If a woman is not interested, you need to learn how to handle that, dude.

It's OK.
Really it is.

Not every single woman on the Earth is going to be INTERESTED you.
That's life.

Just be normal. Business as usual.

women can tell when yuo're trying too hard to get their attention.
Man, and it just doesn't work that way, nando.

Look, if yuo are DETERMINED to get her 'off the fence', then
If you see her, say 'hey whats up? How have you been?" That's it. Nothing more.
If you guys are too far, do not try to get her attention.
But if you're in normal closer range for a normal polite conversation, you could just say :" Hey Mary, how have you been?
Use her name, and stand there so that you are politely acknowledged.
It's not illegal or wrong to be attracted to women. Or want to be with them.
Or to talk to them and just want to say hello.
Never feel guilty or ashamed for that.
NEVER NEVER.
Stand there and wait...
If she wals away, you have two choices..

Say her name a little bit louder : "Mary?" but with confidence, not desperation. You are acknowledging that she is ignoring you. You are doing this publicly, and youre making the statement for her.
This was her second chance.
IF she ignores you again, you don't pay any attention to her ever again.
Simple. You retract ANY Emotional Investment or thoughts or feelings about her from then on.

Or simply let her walk away that first time, and then do not pay any attention to her again. Leave her alone, and let her live her life.

Let go of any resentment.
Or shame.
Or guilt.

And don't get bitter or angry or defeated.

Don't let this build up inside you. It will get toxic.
And if you do, this is why you see so many guys on this forum getting angry at females who 'rejected' them or 'ignored' them or didn't reciprocate or whatever.

The toxins and venim begin to build and fester, and then you've just made one disapointing situation into a negative Life style.
Another Self Fulfilling Prophecy.

"All women are b*tches! And they;re rude to me!"

Guess what?

that's ALL you will 'see'.

Don't do that to yourself.

This is ONE girl.
One girl,
A girl you barely know, and whom barely knows you.She doesnt owe you anything.
Remember that.
 

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That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

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well OP why didn't you say "hi"? You honestly shouldn't expect girls to say anything to you unless they are really interested and because I think most girls are brought up to play hard to get they usually wait for the guy to take charge. If I want to talk to a girl I know and I see her walking around I'll say hey or something. If I don't want to talk to her I won't say anything because I just have no interest in talking to her. It shows confidence really because you're not afraid to say something to her when she is nervous to say something to you. Now I'm not saying she's nervous. Maybe she just doesn't like you or is playing hard to get. I've noticed that sometimes when I see a girl and she sees me she won't say anything. She may even look away or something. However, if I see her again and I say something she's always very nice and friendly. A lot of the times I think it's just that girls don't like to open conversations with guys they don't know very well. So you'll have to take charge. You don't have to have a huge convo or anything.
 

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Interceptor said:
Nando, sometimes women who have BFs do this too.
Also, sometimes women whom are shy and not used to intimacy with men are avoidant acting.

Perhaps you were tryig too hard with her?
Mayeb you gave too many IOUIs and SOIs ?
And she was uncomfortabel with it? So now she avoids you in order to not encourage you?

Nado, dude, look...if a woman is attracte to you, she will be a little more receptive to you.

If she is interestd in you, she will make it her businees to put hersel fin places where she will WANT you to talk to her.

If a woman is not interested, you need to learn how to handle that, dude.

It's OK.
Really it is.

Not every single woman on the Earth is going to be INTERESTED you.
That's life.

Just be normal. Business as usual.

women can tell when yuo're trying too hard to get their attention.
Man, and it just doesn't work that way, nando.

Look, if yuo are DETERMINED to get her 'off the fence', then
If you see her, say 'hey whats up? How have you been?" That's it. Nothing more.
If you guys are too far, do not try to get her attention.
But if you're in normal closer range for a normal polite conversation, you could just say :" Hey Mary, how have you been?
Use her name, and stand there so that you are politely acknowledged.
It's not illegal or wrong to be attracted to women. Or want to be with them.
Or to talk to them and just want to say hello.
Never feel guilty or ashamed for that.
NEVER NEVER.
Stand there and wait...
If she wals away, you have two choices..

Say her name a little bit louder : "Mary?" but with confidence, not desperation. You are acknowledging that she is ignoring you. You are doing this publicly, and youre making the statement for her.
This was her second chance.
IF she ignores you again, you don't pay any attention to her ever again.
Simple. You retract ANY Emotional Investment or thoughts or feelings about her from then on.

Or simply let her walk away that first time, and then do not pay any attention to her again. Leave her alone, and let her live her life.

Let go of any resentment.
Or shame.
Or guilt.

And don't get bitter or angry or defeated.

Don't let this build up inside you. It will get toxic.
And if you do, this is why you see so many guys on this forum getting angry at females who 'rejected' them or 'ignored' them or didn't reciprocate or whatever.

The toxins and venim begin to build and fester, and then you've just made one disapointing situation into a negative Life style.
Another Self Fulfilling Prophecy.

"All women are b*tches! And they;re rude to me!"

Guess what?

that's ALL you will 'see'.

Don't do that to yourself.

This is ONE girl.
One girl,
A girl you barely know, and whom barely knows you.She doesnt owe you anything.
Remember that.

WOW man! You're good! She does in fact have a bf! But man I am not upset or hanged up on her like that, I just wanted to talk to her for social practice.I have other girls lined up that I am interested in. THanks for the information man, it was very helpful!
 

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nando said:
There is this chick I once struck up a convo with and it went ok. Next time when I see her she will look at me when are walking in opposite directions and quickly look to the side, instead of saying hi or what's up?
What the hell is up with that?
Maybe she doesn't remember who you are.
Maybe she thought you were boring in the conversation
Maybe she was thinking about the test she just wrote
Maybe she was thinking about the part-time job she just lost
Maybe she was thinking about her parents divorcing
Maybe she was expecting you to say hi first and invite her to a hot party on the weekend
Maybe she just had a quickie in the bathroom with her bf and was embarrassed.
Or maybe she knew what she missing being in a relationship with you, but just chose not to miss it.

Don't take everything so personally.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
Maybe she doesn't remember who you are.
Maybe she thought you were boring in the conversation
Maybe she was thinking about the test she just wrote
Maybe she was thinking about the part-time job she just lost
Maybe she was thinking about her parents divorcing
Maybe she was expecting you to say hi first and invite her to a hot party on the weekend
Maybe she just had a quickie in the bathroom with her bf and was embarrassed.
Or maybe she knew what she missing being in a relationship with you, but just chose not to miss it.

Don't take everything so personally.
Hey man I just asked for ideas, not to be criticized.
 

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he didn't really criticize you. He's just telling you that you're over-analyzing it too much and taking it too personally. So his advice was to lighten up some.
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

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