Been out with this girl a couple of times, nothing's really happened besides kissing. But the last few times I've asked her out she's either canceled or had previous plans (the reasons she canceled were reasonable). Anyway we're texting the other night and I suggest that she let me know when she's free and I'll try my best to be available to hang out (I usually have 1 or 2 nights off a week). She takes that as me being mad and says that if I'm done then that's fine by her. I tried to tell her I wasn't done but it be nice if she'd meet me half way and I want to see her again. And this is the next msg she sends me "I know, but I'm really busy right now. So it's not fair to you cause I'm not able to see you that much at all". I'm not really sure if that's her way of saying she doesn't want to chill or something.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
What's this msg supposed to mean?
- Thread starter Scion
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
SoldMySoul
Master Don Juan
If there was the most beautiful women in the world wanting to see you, would you find the time to make that happen???? I bet you would!
Sounds like her interest level is low and she is doing other things with her time. Come hell or high water, if she wanted to see you, she would.
Hate to say it: NEXT!
Sounds like her interest level is low and she is doing other things with her time. Come hell or high water, if she wanted to see you, she would.
Hate to say it: NEXT!
Thats what it is buddy.Scion said:
Infact, cancelling your date is her way of saying that.
Infact, not going out of her way and being super excited to meet you is her way of saying that.
You're missing the signs of her very low interest in you. She is plainly throwing you around and your being fooled by her girl bs. Stop listening to what she is saying, you know we judge a girl by her actions.
she canceled because of some work stuff. She tried to get someone to do it for her but no luck.Ease said:
I only had 1 other night off since the date she canceled but she already had plans that night.
I know we judge a girl by her actions but maybe a bit of persistance would be good. Either way I'll give up in the next week or 2 if she doesn't become more responsive.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
SoldMySoul
Master Don Juan
Definition of Insanity: Do the same thing again after failure, expecting the same results.Scion said:
Quit trying to give her the benefit of the doubt and quit trying to analyze it then. Forget about her and see what happens.
We gave you a response to your question and you try to justify her actions. That my friend is plain silly. If you do not want honest answers then do not ask questions expecting us to rationalize a woman's behavior. If you were not interested in a women, would you try and see her?
In life persistence pays off, but with a women most of the time you appear desperate and needy. I say back way off if you are dead set seeing this one and you will have your answer soon enough.
I'm not trying to justify her actions. I didn't give you any specific info in my original post, so I was adding. The msg she sent me was kinda weird, we're just seeing each other casually anyway, so why would it matter if she couldn't see me all the time.
Plus no reason to get all pissy because I'm not given up.
Plus no reason to get all pissy because I'm not given up.
Iceberg
Master Don Juan
Well uh, what was the purpose of asking others for advice if you're just going to make excuses for this girl, and then continue down the same path you were already going down?Scion said:
You went out with her, and nothing happened except kissing. She subsequently canceled or was "too busy" for other dates. You say, "Okay, I'll put the ball in her court." and tell her just to let you know when she's free...she then tries to get you to break things off with her, and doesn't offer to give you a date when she's free. All this through text...the communication channel for people you don't give a f*** about.
Giving her another 2 weeks isn't gonna cause your head to explode. It's just lame. You gotta have some standards for how you're gonna let chicks treat you. And I guarantee you, if this doesn't work out, you'd feel better about yourself if you cut her off early.
It's funny...it seems like you started a thread with the intention of getting advice on how to keep this girl. Or how to raise her interest levels. But no one is giving you that, because all logical signs point to her not being worth your time.
Good luck.
Well wasn't really looking for advice on how to keep her. Either she stays or goes. But never had a girl try and get me to end things, usually they just start to ignore me. Girls don't treat me well to begin with, so I don't really care if things go south. Honestly if I cut this girl off I don't know how long til I'll get another one to be interested in me. I don't feel bad about that or anything, it's just a proven fact.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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If you're still overanalyzing, understand that this girl isn't interested in your ass. Sorry. Get the f**k over it.
You have been found guilty of overanalysis and attempted oneitis development. The fine is undetermined time of unattractiveness and a one way trip to East Friendsville, Michigan. I will dismiss the charge of being a creep.
Case closed. You learned a lesson, especially if you listened to your uncle boomerick.
Rep for him!
You have been found guilty of overanalysis and attempted oneitis development. The fine is undetermined time of unattractiveness and a one way trip to East Friendsville, Michigan. I will dismiss the charge of being a creep.
Case closed. You learned a lesson, especially if you listened to your uncle boomerick.
Rep for him!
Yes I agree now that she's not interested. I talked to her last night after posting this and asked her out for this week coming up. All she said was "I'll let you know". That's basically what every ****ing girl tells me so **** it. Right now all I'd like to do is text her something like "thanks for wasting my time and money, *****". I know that wouldn't be a great msg to send but if I sent her something than what?
Right now I'm really starting to hate women and the game.
Right now I'm really starting to hate women and the game.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Her response almost doesn't matter because you're in control.Scion said:
You control the communication.
Don't worry about what to say next, just go with it man and have fun with it. Chicks love that s**t, don't be so serious and smile when you text or call her.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.