"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What's the most number of kids you would put up with with a single mommy?

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Consider the mommy to be about as superfine as imaginable, and having a good attitude, non-smoker, not too many former boyfriends, etc - but only making about $20K/yr. Would your upper limit be something like 6? :eek: I had an old colleague that was deformed (he could walk but it was not normal) and his ex-wife was rather sexy with 4 kids. :eek: :eek: He said he had to get out of the marriage because she kept on throwing dinner plates at him. :eek: :crackup:
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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4 kids? Nope. 1 maybe
 

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maybe. MAYBE. 1. it would have to be a unique set of circumstances.


I wonder i there is an equation out there that shows the number of kids relative to the amount of sex the woman will have with you

it would be something like 7x /(Y) =

with y being the number of SMV of the male
X being the number of kids
and 7 for the days of the week

so if i am banging jane and she has 2 kids and i'm a HB 8 I'm gona have sex 1 and a half times a week. some good sex and maybe a hand job lol.
 

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If she was smoking hot. Would have a kid with me too. Could take full care of herself and her kid. Was not a total wackjob. And did everything in her power to keep her little brat away from me and disciplined. And had a healthy libido with no sexual inhibitions. I would allow one kid only.

And the only reason I would allow this is because I value time to myself. So as long as i'm getting laid and I have time to myself she can have her kid and me.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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On the one hand she has a good attitude.

On the other hand she throws stuff to solve her issues.

And bonus she has a vagina the size of Rhode island...

Is that about right?
 

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Depends on how close they are to gone and IF she expects me to pay for College.... More than 1 young one.... not happening
 

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If she has the good traits that i like in a girl though she has a kid, and 2 kids being the most i feel i could go. I'll give it a shot, especially if i am really into her enough for me to settle down and stop seeing my plates. But the problem i see along the way would be her kids, especially at their young age where their father was the king in their eyes, unless the father was a child-beating psychopath.
 

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0 I just wouldnt want to be with someone who already has a seed from another man. Thats just me. Anything outside of a fling, I wont go any further than that no matter how "great" she is.
 

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I'd hit Catherine Zeta Jones even if she has kids already. I'll be like a fvckin sex machine and fill her womb fvll of my cvm. :)
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Dear MDJ,
This old chestnut AGAIN...look they make great plates,and that's as far as it goes...the Mums may be fine but the Kids are almost invariably a deal breaker...
 

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Even if you're fine with her having kids, most women will give you a hard time when the kid needs to be disciplined. In a lot of cases the kids consistently rebel against their stepdads.

And when her looks fade, the only thing you have is another man's drama. No reward.
 

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Here's a follow-on question for those who answered a number greater than zero - would you consider legally adopting the other mans' spawn, if the mother said it would help promote "family unity"? :eek:

As for me, my answer would be: :nono:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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0 , you guys must be hurting for pvssy. Single moms should be left single.\

I always thought that was a guy wagging his index finger, but its actually a guy waving his middle. :D
 

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Man I think some of y'all miss the boat here. I think high quality single moms can make great plates for several reasons:
- when they can get a sitter and get out, they can be fun and DTF.
- if they are busy with their kid they won't be bugging you all the time
- they can feel their time with you is a mini vacation

Now I know they cause logistics issues and you have to have really clear boundaries when it comes to the kid, but I wouldn't dismiss them summarily if they are a quality woman.

So the next obvious question is, how can you tell if they are quality? It basically comes down to whether they put themselves first or the kids first. If they still go out every Friday night and are willing to let you fvck them with Johnny in the next room, that's not quality. If they spend more time talking about how much of a pain their kids are than talking about how cute they are, low quality.
 

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LiveFreeX said:
I always thought that was a guy wagging his index finger, but its actually a guy waving his middle. :D
I've always thought so too! :crazy:
 

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It's a trick question.

You don't put up with a single mommy. You just LJBF her.
 

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WHY would you put yourself in the position of paying child support if the marriage didn't work out? It's bad enough if they are yours...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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