"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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What's the best way to set up the date?

speakeasy

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"I'm going to check out a friend's band perform at this venue on Friday, come with me."

"I'd like to get together sometime for a drink, what night are you free?"

Which method is better? To pose it in the form of a statement like the first, where you're not asking her, but telling her to come with you? Or asking her to tell YOU when she is free to go out. The first may come off as more confident, but if she's not free that night which is probably about a 50/50 chance, you'll have to resort to fishing out a date in her schedule which might make you come off as too eager.

How do you guys prefer to set up the date when it comes time to ask?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Whats wrong with both?

I'd go with

"Hey, I'm going to check out a friends band on Friday, you should come along, it'll be a good night", and if she's busy, I'd say "Not into gangster rap/death metal/insert joke here eh? *grin*, well, we should definitly go for a drink, so I can learn about what you DO like, when ya free?"
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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It depends on what you want to convey to her (which should be dependent on stage of your interactions with her). The first one is good in the early stages when you are interested in her but it's still as just acquaintances or friends (i.e. hey, let's hang out). No skin off your nose if she doesn't, you have other friends you could hang out with; it's more about the particular event than who you are with.

The second one is better for subsequent stages where it's been established that there is a mutual interest beyond just friends hanging out; that you specifically want her company. It's more focused on her company rather than the event.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
The second one is better for subsequent stages where it's been established that there is a mutual interest beyond just friends hanging out; that you specifically want her company. It's more focused on her company rather than the event.

Very good distinction. :up:
 

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speakeasy said:
Very good distinction. :up:
That's why I'm not a proponent of believing that you can say anything and just focus on just how you say it. Words have meaning for a reason, use it to your advantage. ;)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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