"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
What would you do if your GF accidently got pregnant?
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Mr_knowit_all
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You and Ruckus are the parasites.donjuanjovi said:
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Because they're mindless, little fags, who thinks it's cool to say gross shyt while hidning behind a computer.JLW said:
It's amazing how these fvcksticks want to have sex, but dehumanize an unborn child because they don't have the balls to take care of it.
In my opinion, it shows a psychiatric disorder.
I wouldnt run a mile. You have to take responsibility in life.The_Reaper said:
I would probably get her to have an abortion.
Its always good ideal to use condom together with birth control pills or some othee back up contraceptic to prevent these problems. Condoms break, so her using the pill at the same time is a good ideal.
*If you combine contraceptives the chance of her getting pregnant is extreamly slim (its really worth it. believe me dude).
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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I was raised in the every other week style, and you still pay child support, but you pay half as much child support per child as a result of caring for them for half the time.
Blusher
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Wait a second here.
The question was not: "What if you got a one-night stand pregnant?"
We're talking about Girlfriend here as in LTR, commited relationship or not?
If so, I mean grow up and take responsibility for fvck's sake.
You guys pose as bad ass alphas but none of us would be man enough to do what a father does.
And think again about abortion, it's convenient for wankerz but it also raises some serious moral questions you may wish to take into consideration. I doubt it, though...
The question was not: "What if you got a one-night stand pregnant?"
We're talking about Girlfriend here as in LTR, commited relationship or not?
If so, I mean grow up and take responsibility for fvck's sake.
You guys pose as bad ass alphas but none of us would be man enough to do what a father does.
And think again about abortion, it's convenient for wankerz but it also raises some serious moral questions you may wish to take into consideration. I doubt it, though...
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Well Blusher...don't turn to Al Sharpton on me...
"I mean grow up and take responsibility for fvck's sake."
I agree with that, they should take responsibility to STOP NUTTIN IN A GIRL. They need to start doing like the porno guys do, before you even get ready to nut, when you find yourself getting happy, pull out and jack off until you nut. Of course always where a condom too, but don't ever nut in a girl. EVER.
"You guys pose as bad ass alphas but none of us would be man enough to do what a father does."
What does a father do? Maybe when I see one I'll know. Lol, but seriously bro, I feel what you are saying. It's just that, these guys don't need to have ANY connections with most of these chicks that they fvck. There's only a few percentatge of chicks that are actually good, but majority of them are fvcked up, seriously.
"And think again about abortion, it's convenient for wankerz but it also raises some serious moral questions you may wish to take into consideration."
Lol yeah okay. I feel what you are saying, but this is 2007 not 1937. Women are not submissive, supportive, kind, caring, anymore, at least not most of them. You better lose that "Be A Father" crap and learn how to pull out fast, and if you get a chick pregnant PUSH PUSH PUSH for the abortion. Push hard as fvck.
it's not about the child, it's about the child's momma. That chick will ride your azz and your bank account for 18 years. The court will give her custody, and she'll take the child's check and go get drunk off it, and treat the child fvcked up.
Not all women, but mjaority. So STOP nutting in chicks, pull the fvck out. And if you get a chick pregnant, PUSH THE FVCKING ABORTION!
"I mean grow up and take responsibility for fvck's sake."
I agree with that, they should take responsibility to STOP NUTTIN IN A GIRL. They need to start doing like the porno guys do, before you even get ready to nut, when you find yourself getting happy, pull out and jack off until you nut. Of course always where a condom too, but don't ever nut in a girl. EVER.
"You guys pose as bad ass alphas but none of us would be man enough to do what a father does."
What does a father do? Maybe when I see one I'll know. Lol, but seriously bro, I feel what you are saying. It's just that, these guys don't need to have ANY connections with most of these chicks that they fvck. There's only a few percentatge of chicks that are actually good, but majority of them are fvcked up, seriously.
"And think again about abortion, it's convenient for wankerz but it also raises some serious moral questions you may wish to take into consideration."
Lol yeah okay. I feel what you are saying, but this is 2007 not 1937. Women are not submissive, supportive, kind, caring, anymore, at least not most of them. You better lose that "Be A Father" crap and learn how to pull out fast, and if you get a chick pregnant PUSH PUSH PUSH for the abortion. Push hard as fvck.
it's not about the child, it's about the child's momma. That chick will ride your azz and your bank account for 18 years. The court will give her custody, and she'll take the child's check and go get drunk off it, and treat the child fvcked up.
Not all women, but mjaority. So STOP nutting in chicks, pull the fvck out. And if you get a chick pregnant, PUSH THE FVCKING ABORTION!
Blusher
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Alright, now let me clarify.
When I read the name of this thread, I am thinking what the OP meant by 'girlfriend' was an actual LTR with someone you truly appreciate, not a drunken one-nighter with a headcase, which wouldn't qualify as 'Girlfriend' as far as I am concerned. But then again, the question was not: "What would you do if you got some random fvck buddy pregnant?"
If we assume you're into a healthy relationship with a quality girl and she gets pregnant then, well that kind of thing happen, it's not a disease it's just nature reminding us that shagging incidently is also for procreation. If you and your girlfriend have a sound relationship, now's gonna be the time to show that you're mature, responsible and caring enough to be a good father.
When I read the name of this thread, I am thinking what the OP meant by 'girlfriend' was an actual LTR with someone you truly appreciate, not a drunken one-nighter with a headcase, which wouldn't qualify as 'Girlfriend' as far as I am concerned. But then again, the question was not: "What would you do if you got some random fvck buddy pregnant?"
If we assume you're into a healthy relationship with a quality girl and she gets pregnant then, well that kind of thing happen, it's not a disease it's just nature reminding us that shagging incidently is also for procreation. If you and your girlfriend have a sound relationship, now's gonna be the time to show that you're mature, responsible and caring enough to be a good father.
There are good women out there. Just go and find yourself one. A woman in love will do a lot for you, from your post I'd say you have yet to exerience this.
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Blusher I feel you, but see a lot of guys have not kept up with the times.
Women are not like they were years ago, women are like men...they are fvcking around, sticking and fvcking moving dude.
There's four catergories of women from my experiences
Girlfriend/Wifey
Close Friends with Benefits
Fvck Partner
Social Fvck Partner
Blusher, from my experience, 95% of women are NOT THE GIRLFRIEND/WIFEY TYPE. Blusher, too many times, a guy fvcks a girl and the girl starts saying all this shyt about "I'm in love, etc." and the guy jumps in a relationship with her. Everything is going great, he's banging her good, everything....then down the line the real chick comes out, and the guy is now stuck. He's got a child with her, he's married her without a pre-nup, he's fvcked up.
Women are NOT women anymore, at least not most of them. They are like us, they are sticking and moving and all they want to do is get fvcking laid!
The girls in the Close Friends with Benefits catergory, they resemble the Girlfriend/Wifey a little, and that's why the guy falls for it. But in time, she breaks lose.
Guys have got to be up to date with the current times. These guys are afraid to do approaches, they don't understand, there's nothing to be afraid of. Sexual state, sexual power, that's the sell. 95% of women want a good fvck. When you have all the sexual state and sexual power, you fvck them, but don't take that just because you fvcked her, that means that she likes you.
And just because you are in a relationship, that means nothing. Ask yourself this question Blusher. If you were stuck 100 miles out and it's 4 in the morning, it's a snow blizzard outside, would that chick come and pick you up?
The girlfriend/wifey fits that caterogory, because she is literally your mother's spirit in a 21 year old's body, and with a 21 year's figure. But if you think that you're going to get this everyday, that's not correct. So then, why are most guys in relationships? Most guys should actually TODAY, be getting laid more than ever. Getting laid shouldn't be hard today...it's hard because guys jsut aren't up to date.
What's all this stuff about, "breaking women out of their social shells?" What the hell? What world are these guys in? These chicks have been out since the Baby Boom, where in the hell do you think all those damn babies came from?
These guys are stuck in the wrong age, wrong time, and it's just a shame. But hell, I'm enjoyin all this pvssy.
Women are not like they were years ago, women are like men...they are fvcking around, sticking and fvcking moving dude.
There's four catergories of women from my experiences
Girlfriend/Wifey
Close Friends with Benefits
Fvck Partner
Social Fvck Partner
Blusher, from my experience, 95% of women are NOT THE GIRLFRIEND/WIFEY TYPE. Blusher, too many times, a guy fvcks a girl and the girl starts saying all this shyt about "I'm in love, etc." and the guy jumps in a relationship with her. Everything is going great, he's banging her good, everything....then down the line the real chick comes out, and the guy is now stuck. He's got a child with her, he's married her without a pre-nup, he's fvcked up.
Women are NOT women anymore, at least not most of them. They are like us, they are sticking and moving and all they want to do is get fvcking laid!
The girls in the Close Friends with Benefits catergory, they resemble the Girlfriend/Wifey a little, and that's why the guy falls for it. But in time, she breaks lose.
Guys have got to be up to date with the current times. These guys are afraid to do approaches, they don't understand, there's nothing to be afraid of. Sexual state, sexual power, that's the sell. 95% of women want a good fvck. When you have all the sexual state and sexual power, you fvck them, but don't take that just because you fvcked her, that means that she likes you.
And just because you are in a relationship, that means nothing. Ask yourself this question Blusher. If you were stuck 100 miles out and it's 4 in the morning, it's a snow blizzard outside, would that chick come and pick you up?
The girlfriend/wifey fits that caterogory, because she is literally your mother's spirit in a 21 year old's body, and with a 21 year's figure. But if you think that you're going to get this everyday, that's not correct. So then, why are most guys in relationships? Most guys should actually TODAY, be getting laid more than ever. Getting laid shouldn't be hard today...it's hard because guys jsut aren't up to date.
What's all this stuff about, "breaking women out of their social shells?" What the hell? What world are these guys in? These chicks have been out since the Baby Boom, where in the hell do you think all those damn babies came from?
These guys are stuck in the wrong age, wrong time, and it's just a shame. But hell, I'm enjoyin all this pvssy.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Blusher
Senior Don Juan
DJF or John, a lot of what you say I totally agree with. As far as my own experience goes, I can confirm the the girlfriend/wifey category is a very small percentage of the population. And even if you find one, doesn't mean you can afford to get sloppy and turn into into an AFC and hope to maintain a good relationship.
I'd follow Doc's advice on this when he says 'watch a girl's interest level for 60 days' and her attitude for the next couple of years. Only time can tell if your relationship is solid or not.
I'd follow Doc's advice on this when he says 'watch a girl's interest level for 60 days' and her attitude for the next couple of years. Only time can tell if your relationship is solid or not.
yes. cool uh?
selfmademob
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I can relate to this personally, except it's not what you think. My father cheated on his wife with my mom, he was already married and I was raised by my mom, never knew my father, I found out I have a half-brother who is one month younger than me!
So, It's one of those things, my mom was like 25 so she wasn't too young, but this thread made me think to ask her if she considered an abortion, if she had, obviously I would not be here to post this thread, sure it was difficult being raised by a single parent, but it also makes me want to be a great father because I never had any kind of father.
So, It's one of those things, my mom was like 25 so she wasn't too young, but this thread made me think to ask her if she considered an abortion, if she had, obviously I would not be here to post this thread, sure it was difficult being raised by a single parent, but it also makes me want to be a great father because I never had any kind of father.
Dude. You're all forgetting a great alternative...The_Reaper said:
It's called adoption.
And for those of you who think you're immature... You may be. But then, you might... just might... think about being smart enough to realize that you're not ready for all the commitment, and avoid the situations that might give you consequences that you couldn't deal with.
Having a kid - you never know how a kid will mature you. A kid can have a way of forcing people to grow up, which can be a good thing.
Just a few considerations.
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I was waiting for somebody to mention adoption. Thank you, Mental.
We live in such a disposeable society these days. Adoption is a viable option for unwanted pregnancy.
Some people like to use the excuse that having a child and putting it up for adoption is harder for a woman to go through, but it's really not. I know girls who have both had abortions and given children up for adoption, and they're both about equally fvcked up. Both situations will emotionally damage a woman.
The truth is that you won't ever truly know how you feel or what you think is the right thing to do until you're in that situation. It doesn't matter how staunchly you believe in something, you'll at least temporarily question your beliefs when the situation arises.
Both my girlfriend at the time and I were staunchly anti-abortion until she got pregnant. But we actually considered abortion as an option. We decided against it, but it did get thought about.
It works both ways. A good friend of mine has always been staunchly pro-abortion. But he's been through three of them now with two different girls. And he still wonders what his life would be like if he hadn't done that. When he speaks of those times, he speaks of them bitterly.
We live in such a disposeable society these days. Adoption is a viable option for unwanted pregnancy.
Some people like to use the excuse that having a child and putting it up for adoption is harder for a woman to go through, but it's really not. I know girls who have both had abortions and given children up for adoption, and they're both about equally fvcked up. Both situations will emotionally damage a woman.
The truth is that you won't ever truly know how you feel or what you think is the right thing to do until you're in that situation. It doesn't matter how staunchly you believe in something, you'll at least temporarily question your beliefs when the situation arises.
Both my girlfriend at the time and I were staunchly anti-abortion until she got pregnant. But we actually considered abortion as an option. We decided against it, but it did get thought about.
It works both ways. A good friend of mine has always been staunchly pro-abortion. But he's been through three of them now with two different girls. And he still wonders what his life would be like if he hadn't done that. When he speaks of those times, he speaks of them bitterly.
ExploringOne
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It all depends on the situation. Is this a woman you plan to spend your life with anyway? Or is it a casual thing? Can it turn into more serious?
Personally at this point in my life I would push for abortion, if that's not an option, then giving the kid up for adotion, and finally, if that is not an option, then I'll be calling my lawyers ASAP to figure out a way out of paying child support. I'm sure with proper persuasion it would be easy to convince the mother to be, to sign off on a contract stating that she would not seek any support for herself or the child.
Lastly, to the people who have suggested the "coat hanger", and other ways of eliminating the problem. That's just going too freaking far. While in concept I agree, in principle it's just wrong.
Personally at this point in my life I would push for abortion, if that's not an option, then giving the kid up for adotion, and finally, if that is not an option, then I'll be calling my lawyers ASAP to figure out a way out of paying child support. I'm sure with proper persuasion it would be easy to convince the mother to be, to sign off on a contract stating that she would not seek any support for herself or the child.
Lastly, to the people who have suggested the "coat hanger", and other ways of eliminating the problem. That's just going too freaking far. While in concept I agree, in principle it's just wrong.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I am quite scared of this happening
I think killing the baby is immoral but I have no problem with adoption
My girlfriend says she would never get an adoption but I think we would be too young for a child if we have one (I am twenty and she's nineteen).
Perhaps I should date someone more liberal
I think killing the baby is immoral but I have no problem with adoption
My girlfriend says she would never get an adoption but I think we would be too young for a child if we have one (I am twenty and she's nineteen).
Perhaps I should date someone more liberal
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Or just get a vasectomy.PheonixUK said:
Or just triple up your birth control methods.
Or, as someone else suggested, stop nuttin' in girls altogether (although that's the LEAST reliable method of birth control I've EVER heard of...except for the rhythm method I suppose)
Or just hold your laptop on your lap a lot. I hear the heat from the batteries reduces your sperm count.
(Sorry guys, this is such a loaded topic I can't help but be ridiculous about it :crazy:
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Pour amonia down her throat.
persiangino
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Why would i want to father a *****'s child, when i can SAFELY say more then 90% of the women out their are just that, *****S. And the other 10% i wont care about until when i'm 40 lol
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.