What women and men learn from first relationship

Who Dares Win

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I guess more like:

Woman: the power I can get

Man: it wasnt worth the hassle after all
 

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My first relationship was a very good experience - loads of good memories. Main problem was that I had some very funny ideas about "being equal", and had some amazingly ridiculous arguments that are funny to think back on. Just out of whack expectations at times.

Only time she was very manipulative was in the break up. Then she acted like a complete cvnt afterwards, but that's being angry for you.
 

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Women manipulate men because they got too many options.

Men get manipulated because they lack options.
 

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My first relationship was a very good experience - loads of good memories. Main problem was that I had some very funny ideas about "being equal", and had some amazingly ridiculous arguments that are funny to think back on. Just out of whack expectations at times.

Only time she was very manipulative was in the break up. Then she acted like a complete cvnt afterwards, but that's being angry for you.
I should add what I learnt:

- That the woman you get with isn't necessarily the same you break up with
- That I'm "the prize" as they say. That as the main value giver (that seems to be the main gripe, I know what you mean) that I can just replicate it over
- That any equality or fairness stuff (put through a male mind at least) is just clownshoes
 

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Julian

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Do not argue ever. Let her speak her mind. Then you end the discussion with a perfectly timed alpha 1 liner that completely leaves her wrekt.
 

Epic Days

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I never had a relationship before I got married. Not such a great idea (getting married). I've always been a rogue. But I learned a massive amount of stuff from that marriage.

I don't think they learn anything. I think they just get more skilled. But they always knew and understood it. They are born that way and practice in the girl circles until they graduate to boy circles.
 

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The funny thing about my first relationship it was a delayed red pill experience.Meaning a lot of my suspicions didn't really come to light until 2004 and that relationship ended in 1991. So took the red pill in 2004 and Tom Leykis was a my Morpheus and opened my eyes and that's when I started to hear stories like mine from Tom and other callers. That's when I realized the stuff she denied and shamed and blamed me probably did happen. The thing about this was my ex I met at work and yes I know don't date anyone at work but I was 18 at the time when started dating her and so naive as well. So it was a delayed red pill experience because she continued to work there until 2006 and then she reseigned shortly after. So guys this is why you don't date anyone at work so do the math for 15 years I had to see her flaunt certain aspects of her life regarding her dating other men and so forth. That is like a jail sentence for a guy emotionally. This is one of the things could happen if you hook up with someone at work. Not a good idea!
 
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