"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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What to say on the first phone call

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Ok, you got the number and it's not fake.

Questions:
1. How do you decide when to call. I've seen most people agree that 2-3 days is best. So, which things do you look at to decide how long to wait to call that woman?

2. This is actually my biggest question: what do you say on that first phone call?

Intuitively I would think that this phone call has to be no longer than 5 to 10 minutes. I would start with asking something like "how are you", then some other question about some activity that she was going to do. Then end the conversation with asking het out, giving her two options (like: wednesday or friday). If she cannot go on both days I'd ask her if she can go another day. If she then says she's really busy I'd never call her again.
Is that the right DJ's first call?

Thanks for your help,
Bumble-B
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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squirrels

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There's no right answer.

I call, ask her what she's up to right now/last couple days, maybe make a minute of small talk if she has something to talk about. (seems like all chicks wanna talk your ear off on the phone)

Then I find out what she's doing on xxx day, and then if she doesn't have plans, suggest something.

Then get off the phone as quickly as possible.

As far as having a "backup day," that's hit-or-miss, because I have other things (and other women) to do. ;)
 

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I find it the hardest when your calling back a girl you met randomly out at a bar...You have to do they, "Hey its Danknuggs, I met you out at XXX on XXX" You then have to recall something from meeting her other than an approximate cup size of her tits.

Find a mutual topic to talk about for a minute or two (she knows why your calling). One way to make it easier on you is to talk about your week, ask her about hers. Girls that don't want to go out start early with the "im so busy blah blah blah...with alot of vague statements" if you get by this, then tell her your date idea...

You'll be fine...
 

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I call, ask her what she's up to right now/last couple days, maybe make a minute of small talk if she has something to talk about.

Sorry dude, have to disagree with you on this one.

Think about all the salespeople that call you out of the blue. They always ask "how are you" or other rapport seeking questions first right?

In fact, that's what EVERYONE does. They seek rapport straight away on the phone, and the receiver INSTANTLY knows that the caller WANTS something.

So what do you do?

Call her and TELL her a story. Call her and use call back humour to put her back into the state that you left her in.

Eg: I call up a girl (usually within 48 hours) and tell her that I thought I saw her on the street, and I sneaked up behind her and said XXX (something crazy and slightly offensive - what I said to her when I met her) and then go on to describe how that girl reacted.

They usually laugh and then we are off to a great start on the phone. She is going to feel comfortable and not "weirded out" talking to some stranger. It shows that you are CONSISTANT with the fun and crazy image that they come to know.

THEN you go and ask those small talk questions to get her comfortable.

SET HER up by qualifying her. Tell her how you HATE flaky people, how people who are not adventurous enough to meet new people and that you cannot hang out with such people. Ask if she is flaky and if she is then it was nice meeting her.

THEN you set something up (has to be fun and exciting).
 

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Call, say hey what's up blah blah blah. Talk for about 15 min(don't worry about what other DJs say - build trust) - After that.. hang up. During the long convo find out what's going to be happening with her the following week.

Wait 2-3 days then call her to blah blah blah, ask about (whatever she told you about) and then ask if she's available 2-3 days from now. If she says "I'm BUsy" and offers no counter offer. her number gets deleted off your cell, whatever. Find other girls - if she is still interested in you, expect a call within 10 days. If not - oh well.

DO NOT LEAVE VOICEMAIL.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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when you call, GET STRAIGHT TO THE POINT...the reason that you called.

when a girl gives me a "busy" crap and no counter offer, i just next her.

but then im not sure if the no counter offer thing really means they're not interested in you. i was just thinking over, it's possible itm akes them seem desperate IF they do offer a counter offer.
 

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Desperate? I disagree. You call up the girl : Hey what's up.. Let's go eat at this place, you free on Wed/Thurs Girl: No.. I'm busy.. BUT I can see you on Fri.

How is that desperate? To me that is class. She is making a little bit effort to show she is interested enough to meet you.

HOWEVER.. if she says I'm Busy.. and then says nothing else. I don't next her. Stop being so quick with the next trigger. I make one more effort a week later - if she gives me same answer... then NEXT.
 

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I agree with Unassign. I usually lighten the mood by making the girl laugh right off the bat. Then we have some good tension/flirting going on to build off. After that I get their schedule for the week and see where I can fit them in. I'll arrange a get together for the next day or the day after.

There's no magic formula for this. If the girl has high interest you could talk about bullshiat for a minute and ask her to hang out then she'll agree. Think about it this way. Getting a girl's number is a mere formality of your game when you met her. If you impressed her enough she'll be more than willing to hangout with you. If you seemed desperate or didn't work you game well enough she'll ditch you like yesterday's socks.


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Thanks for sharing what works for you, there are some excellent tips here!

Keep'em coming :cool:
 
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