"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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What to do?

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Hey I'm new to this forum. Some of the posts and articles are very insightful and have completely changed my persepctive on almost everything.

I've been txting this girl for quite some time and whenever I try to initiate real life contact (ask her to a gig im going to, drinks, etc) she gives me the busy line but never offers a counterproposal. I read through anti dumps post and the 2 strikes and your out post really makes sense. If this girl was interested she would not have turned me down back to back without offering some kind of counterproposal right?

I was told the best thing to do in this situation is to move on and find other girls. If she reinitiates contact then reply but don't ask her on a date again right? Now this girl has been doing this for months. Reinitiates contact with me. We talk. I ask her out. She says she's busy. I ingore her and then she'll txt me a few days later asking how I am. Its getting very tiresome.

How can I communicate to this girl that she should stop txting me unless she actually wants to meet up?

Is "Look, not to be rude but if you don't have plans to meet me anytime soon can you stop txting me". I figured that might be a bit too direct and may spook her if she is genuinely interested in how I'm doing.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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well im completely new here, so please dont follow my advice!!!!!!

But if i were you, i would reply
"you know, girls that text me only do so because they like me"

the next time she texts me :D
 

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Talk to her when she initiates it, don't ask her out, and play it cool. Also date other girls. She will either hint at hanging if you talk, or she won't, and you don't have to waste time.

Or you can jus have a text friend. They aren't so bad actually. Gives you someone to talk to, and maybe she could help you with your new girls
 

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The Karate Kid said:
Talk to her when she initiates it, don't ask her out, and play it cool. Also date other girls. She will either hint at hanging if you talk, or she won't, and you don't have to waste time.

Or you can jus have a text friend. They aren't so bad actually. Gives you someone to talk to, and maybe she could help you with your new girls
Oh god. Is that the way the world is going? Text friends? That's sad.

My advice - After months of dealing with her, I'd consider it a lost cause. If she's still reaching out to text you, but not giving you anything sexually...or even a date, then f**k it. She just friend zoned herself.

Even if you did get a date with her, it's not worth it. All the work that you had to put into this....it's like paying $1000 bucks for something you know is only worth $200. At the end you might get what you want, but you'd always know that it's not worth what you put into it.

I'd love for you to say "Stop texting me if we're not going to hang out." But that's just because it would be funny...and true. In reality, that tactic wouldn't work. It would just put her on the defensive.
 

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Alexandrovich said:
I've been txting this girl for quite some time and whenever I try to initiate real life contact (ask her to a gig im going to, drinks, etc) she gives me the busy line but never offers a counterproposal.
Problems in RED. This one's a lost cause.

I was told the best thing to do in this situation is to move on and find other girls. If she reinitiates contact then reply but don't ask her on a date again right? Now this girl has been doing this for months.
:eek:


Reinitiates contact with me. We talk. I ask her out. She says she's busy. I ingore her and then she'll txt me a few days later asking how I am. Its getting very tiresome.
Here.



How can I communicate to this girl that she should stop txting me unless she actually wants to meet up?
Here.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Iceberg said:
Oh god. Is that the way the world is going? Text friends? That's sad.


I'd love for you to say "Stop texting me if we're not going to hang out." But that's just because it would be funny...and true. In reality, that tactic wouldn't work. It would just put her on the defensive.
Haha yeh you're right. I hate the concept of any electronic contact as the norm. Great advice.

vatoloco said:
Problems in RED. This one's a lost cause.


:eek:



Here.




Here.
Invaluable advice. Fortunately I'm seeing other women so its not a huge concern. The weird thing is I've ****ed this girl a few times already which is why her behaviour is rather surprising.
 

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Alexandrovich said:
Invaluable advice. Fortunately I'm seeing other women so its not a huge concern. The weird thing is I've ****ed this girl a few times already which is why her behaviour is rather surprising.
Women will be always be women.
 

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H0es will be H0es.
 
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