"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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epicwinner

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Hi guys

I'm new to this forum, although I have browsed before (so I'm aware of many terms like C/F, LJBF etc)

here is a situation. There is this girl that I have been seeing; she took same subjects with me at uni last year... we never spoke to each other in class before. this year, I ran into her at a party (mutual friend's) it was very obvious there were IOI from her... but I wasn't attracted to her then

to cut the story short, we met several times after that and I have developed feelings for her!

It is the girl that contacts me first to arrange meetings etc, but I have yet to make a serious move on her (I flirt a lot, we have good convos, lots of subtle kinos what not)

you see, I have a feeling that I should make a move soon (like, kiss her), otherwise I might just get a LJBF! It has been over 2 years since I dated someone.. and it is kind of hard now to spot that moment.
I'm thinking of meeting up with her again tomorrow... how should I approach this?

Cheers!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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epicwinner said:
Hi guys

I'm new to this forum, although I have browsed before (so I'm aware of many terms like C/F, LJBF etc)

here is a situation. There is this girl that I have been seeing; she took same subjects with me at uni last year... we never spoke to each other in class before. this year, I ran into her at a party (mutual friend's) it was very obvious there were IOI from her... but I wasn't attracted to her then

to cut the story short, we met several times after that and I have developed feelings for her!

It is the girl that contacts me first to arrange meetings etc, but I have yet to make a serious move on her (I flirt a lot, we have good convos, lots of subtle kinos what not)

you see, I have a feeling that I should make a move soon (like, kiss her), otherwise I might just get a LJBF! It has been over 2 years since I dated someone.. and it is kind of hard now to spot that moment.
I'm thinking of meeting up with her again tomorrow... how should I approach this?

Cheers!
There is no "moment" to kiss her. You have to get her used to touching you, and you must constantly escalate. For instance:

1) Light touching of shoulders, side of arms during conversation.
2) Escort her around the place with your hand on the small of her back.
3) Holding hands
4) Holding her around the waist/Hugging

etc... It's a ladder, you have to constantly be increasing the intensity of kino, this is called kino escalation.

You can't just suddenly 'go for the kiss", because she's not ready for that yet. Have you held hands? No? Then how can you expect her to kiss you?

And yes, poster above me is correct, follow his advice too. Don't get too hung up on one particular girl.
 

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Thanks a lot guys!

Yes, we do hold hands and we have a lot of kino lol

Great tips! much appreciated
 
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