"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ill try and make this as short as possible.

I met this girl at a saturday school we go to, we aren't in the same class and I don't see her much. Our last lesson before Christmas was when I first started talking to her.

She asked me for my email. We talked later on and a few times during the week. She also asked for my cell/mobile number and we were texting on that for a few hrs one night. She seemed a bit interested in me, I tried C&F and we got along fine.

Now she isn't online at all, she was on earlier and I managed to stop myself from talking to her (not seeming too needy) but she didn't talk to me, and hasn't msged me in a while even though I thought she was starting to like me. Its been nearly two weeks since we she got my email. SHe also gave my email to her friend is who constantly online and we've talked but she doesn't seem interested too much - which I don't mind.

Basically how can I tell if the main girl is interested + show I'm annoyed that she isn't online much. Also try to get her interested in me more and show I'm not needy etc.

Thanks.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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online? why would you want a "e-gf" now? you have her cell phone # dont you?

call her, ask her out, pick her up, have fun.
 

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kizza said:
Basically how can I tell if the main girl is interested + show I'm annoyed that she isn't online much. Also try to get her interested in me more and show I'm not needy etc.
...very impossible. You're annoyed that she's not online = you're needy. Call her...
 
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i was just talking to this other girl i know and trying to get some help about it (dw i've known this girl for ages and we're friends). she immediately said it was hard 2 get and it definitely seems a possibility. it accounts for practically everything shes done. it just pisses me off that girl's make you want them... then kinda go away and try to lead you on.

im talking to her now and tryin to 'distance' myself a bit more and i'll tell you guys how it goes.

any help in general of how to get her interested in me instead of playing games? or something i could do.

thanks.
 

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btw for what u guys said so far, im not sure about calling, but ill see how this goes atm. thanks for replying so quickly.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Don't show that you are annoyed that she hasn't been online. (You shouldn't be annoyed!)

You did a good job not talking to her when she was online last. If she wants to pull away, let her. Her loss, right?
 

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I unfortunately showed a bit of annoyance and screwed it up (only a lil bit) then realised/regretted it just afterwards. I can probably work on this as we talked for only a little while and it keeps seeming more obvious she is playin hard 2 get (even though I had a strange impression that much younger girls (15/16) did these games less).

I'm trying to sound a bit more distant/less interested, but I'll be seeing this girl every saturday for a while (starting 13th jan) and I know im definitely interested in her which is the problem. I guess I don't mind pushing her away too much as long as in the end maybe she'll stop with the games or something? (hopefully?).

We live a bit far away, so I can't just casually go over and I'd say it would be awkward to call her coz we've barely talked before in real life, so I just need some goal/direction/objective.

Btw to the first reply of 'e-gf' I dont think thats quite for me lol!
 

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kizza said:
I unfortunately showed a bit of annoyance and screwed it up (only a lil bit) then realised/regretted it just afterwards. I can probably work on this as we talked for only a little while and it keeps seeming more obvious she is playin hard 2 get (even though I had a strange impression that much younger girls (15/16) did these games less).

I'm trying to sound a bit more distant/less interested, but I'll be seeing this girl every saturday for a while (starting 13th jan) and I know im definitely interested in her which is the problem. I guess I don't mind pushing her away too much as long as in the end maybe she'll stop with the games or something? (hopefully?).

We live a bit far away, so I can't just casually go over and I'd say it would be awkward to call her coz we've barely talked before in real life, so I just need some goal/direction/objective.

Btw to the first reply of 'e-gf' I dont think thats quite for me lol!
i was only kidding about the e-gf, :rolleyes: . if your interested in her, thats not a problem. just as long as you can control it without hurting yourself. can i ask you a question though? how many girls have you actually had a connection with? sorta like this situation you are in now.
 

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great question, i think it'll make you realise why i need the help.

if you're talking about the hard 2 get situation? then none.

otherwise maybe 3/4 but i always used to play the 'nice guy' thing which turned them off.

i immediately realised with this girl that i needed a bit more knowledge etc, which is where i read up about a load of stuff and used some. i just didn't realise that some of these things would happen so quickly.

it surprised me that i ignored the signs so obviously.

hope that answered ur question?
 

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you have her mobile number so call her. make it your "short-term" goal to call her this tuesday night so you can setup a date with her for thursday night. (or friday, but i recommend thursday) all you need to do is talk to her for 5 minutes (10 minutes max). this is the best way to show her you are interested.
if she says "she has to think about it" or "i dont know", tell her "think about it, and call me back tomorrow". if she calls back and does decide to go, accept it (trust me on this one). if she says she cant, brush it off because this shouldnt effect you. make a ****y + funny comment and then tell her you have to go. now end contact with her and go find yourself another girl. if she wants you back, she will come after you. if she doesnt, she either isnt interested, or is shy wondering if you like her or not.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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