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What to do when she refuses to pay for dates?

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Like the title says, Ive been on a handful of dates with this girl, who refuses to pay for dates, not even half, when I say "are you paying" she sarcastically goes "ya right", then she sends me a text saying next time we'll do something less expensive. Nice girl, good sex, but F***** cheap, thats a big pet peeve of mine.

any suggestions?
 

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drop her, shes just gold diggin, should only pay for the first few dates imo
 

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hahaha gsp, that's hilarious.

OP, stop taking her out. If you do, go to Mcdonald's and order off the dollar menu. And when you finally get sick of her and want to next her, do what gsp said and laugh yourself home.
 

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thegspwarrior97 said:
take her to an expensive restaurant, order the most extravagant meal, lots of wine, etc. Then have a friend call you during your dinner. Tell her you need to take the call then proceed to go outside of the restaurant. Then when you are outside, run away. Leave her with the bill.
i like this better
 

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I have a policy that says if a woman doesn't start paying her share, then she goes to $0/low $ dates. Walk around the park, popcorn and movie at my place, time to visit the B-52, shopping for me, idk. Only time I had this happen was when there was low interest on both sides and it just went away.

Then again normally I'm a cheapskate. I've only spent >$100 once on a date, and that was an out of town ex I'm still close to.

You got any of them $1 movie theatres around you?
 
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Organise some low budget dates! You don´t have to go to restaurants all the time. Doing sport together and eating sandwiches you prepared by yourself is also fun! If she is satisfied with it -> she hasn´t got enough money but she is OK. If she doesn´t like it because it´s "cheap" -> she fvcks for beefsteak and cinema-tickets = she is a wh*re.
 

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Fvck that. Dont take her on dates. Just go to her house and bang her, or invite her to yours. She is obviously very selfish. She should at least offer once in a while. Its not about money, or being cheap. Its a matter of character
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Has she given ANY explanation as to why she never offers to pay a dime on a date?

clues to her money situation are to look at her clothes, shoes, jewelery and see if they look new & expensive. IF they are, she's probably either;

a) good at grabbing bargains from charity shops
b) yes, you guessed it, a GOLDDIGGER

now here's the deal, you start taking her on cheaper dates, fine, no problem, but she may bail you for another Joe with $$. Not your problem, it will all sort itself out and become clear in time whether she's a user and abuser, or whether she is just generally poor and embarrassed because she has no money.

Does she work????

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mtlwlu said:
Like the title says, Ive been on a handful of dates with this girl, who refuses to pay for dates, not even half, when I say "are you paying" she sarcastically goes "ya right", then she sends me a text saying next time we'll do something less expensive. Nice girl, good sex, but F***** cheap, thats a big pet peeve of mine.

any suggestions?

Suggestions? Simple. I suggest you get rid of that $$$tapeworm$$$ and find someone with a little more self respect for themselves than your own. That's my suggestion.
 

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She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

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mtlwlu said:
Like the title says, Ive been on a handful of dates with this girl, who refuses to pay for dates, not even half, when I say "are you paying" she sarcastically goes "ya right", then she sends me a text saying next time we'll do something less expensive. Nice girl, good sex, but F***** cheap, thats a big pet peeve of mine.

any suggestions?

Suggestions? Simple. I suggest you get rid of that $$$tapeworm$$$ and find someone with a little more self respect for themselves than your own. That's my suggestion.
 

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take her for face value.... if shes hot, nice, and a tiger in the sack, it's a cost of doing business. but don't fall in love
 

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she works but I have a higher paying job, cause lets face it...im a male. Also Im entering my 4th year at university, while shes not in school anymore, so needless to say i need to save as best I can.
 

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you need to Dollar/Cost Average your cost of having sex with her.

in the end, everyone pays.

is it a good value?

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seriously,

chicks like this are just a bottomless pit. if she is not willing to fork out any cash, it just shows how selfish she is.

man up and put her in her place. she doesn't have to go 50/50, but she should treat sometimes.

if she refuses, dump her when yo get tired of her, and let her be someone else's leech.
 

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Organise a date by asking if she has enough cash to go on X date.
Problem solved.
Sounds like she's getting mad cause she expected you to pay, man just talk to her and tell her she's a top chick but you just don't pay to take girls out.

So sick of the threads in general.
Might make a thread on general problem solving, what the hell is with guys taking every little problem here rather than just solving it themselves.
 

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She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Nice girl, good sex, but F***** cheap, thats a big pet peeve of mine.


She's putting out, but you won't pay? She thinks you are the cheap one.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Nice girl, good sex, but F***** cheap, thats a big pet peeve of mine.


She's putting out, but you won't pay? She thinks you are the cheap one.
I know you have a lot of rep but where the hell did you get the idea that a man has to pay to take a woman out.
Take money out your equation, it has no place in this game.

What an obnoxious belief.
Sure Scarface said "First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the women." but my god; this media programming shi7 isn't how things actually work.

Money = Provider = Dating Frame = "I'm going to make you wait for sex but at the same time probably screw the first guy that can sexually affect my emotions rather than my appetite for fine dining and entertainment."

Shi7, all this feminism independence stuff and yet still societies contradictory double standards.
 

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mtlwlu said:
Like the title says, Ive been on a handful of dates with this girl, who refuses to pay for dates, not even half, when I say "are you paying" she sarcastically goes "ya right", then she sends me a text saying next time we'll do something less expensive. Nice girl, good sex, but F***** cheap, thats a big pet peeve of mine.

any suggestions?
If you are already banging her, what the hell are you doing taking her out on dates? Not against a relationship or going out to have fun, but dates are something you reward broads who are worthy of you spending time with. If a woman is to be worthy, she must be a giver. She must be willing to share, willing to offer to pay some of the time, even if you end up paying, must be willing to cook for you or suggest more low key "dates".

Put her on probation right now, unless you are ok with her being a total taker.
 

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this media programming shi7 isn't how things actually work.

The woman paying her own way is actually a Feminist idea - everything is equal and women are just like men. Some women insist upon paying their own way, and I let them if it makes them happy.

But for other women, it is important to them that you pay. I don't mean to debate how things should be in a perfect world, but it is a reality that a lot of women will think of you as cheap if you don't pay. That's just how it is, and they aren't going to change. If it bothers you, then like Gangster of Love said, don't go out on dates. Just stay home and fvck. What you are telling the girl every time she puts out and you don't pay is that her pvssy is not worth a twenty-dollar meal.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
The woman paying her own way is actually a Feminist idea - everything is equal and women are just like men. Some women insist upon paying their own way, and I let them if it makes them happy.

But for other women, it is important to them that you pay. I don't mean to debate how things should be in a perfect world, but it is a reality that a lot of women will think of you as cheap if you don't pay. That's just how it is, and they aren't going to change. If it bothers you, then like Gangster of Love said, don't go out on dates. Just stay home and fvck. What you are telling the girl every time she puts out and you don't pay is that her pvssy is not worth a twenty-dollar meal.
Once you start putting value on the pvssy, it starts to take control of you. You think the sex is a one way deal? Women want sex too and you should never make it so that sex is about her doing you a favour. If anything, a DJ would make sex about you doing her a favour. But sex is mutual and has no price tag unless you put one on it. NEVER PAY FOR PVSSY.

Just think of how many women control their rich AFC boyfriends with sex, the boyfriend has to buy ****loads of jewellery in order for her to put out. This is not the kind of relationship anyone should be having. This is why game is advocated, in order for a man to SEDUCE the woman, not BUY her into bed.
 

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