Bible_Belt said:
I always pay, at least when I can. I like paying. Men have been providing for women for a million years; it is the natural dynamic. If you were to tell a Feminist that, she would probably slap you.
Of course, I attach a lot of unspoken conditions to paying. I would never take a girl out more than a time or two without getting sex, nor tolerate poor behavior. I am not talking about getting taken advantage of. The women in my life, including the one I am with now, have paid my way plenty of times. They know that I spend it if I have it, but they don't place money as a condition of being together.
If it bothers you to spend money on a girl, don't take her to bars and restaurants. Do something free. Some women will just never be ok with paying their own way. You are never going to win, despite being logically correct. Just buy the poor girl some Chinese food and make her happy.
It's just it bothers me you seeeing paying to be a pu55y-prerequisite.
Like I see what you're saying that it's nice to take a girl out and make her feel special but doing so just because she put out wouldn't be a valid reason for me.
Even less valid is paying for the girls date and having this idea that now she should put out.
You said you wouldn't take a girl out and pay more than twice if you weren't getting laid.
That's sort of like saying to get laid, buy it. I wish I could fully explain why the provider is generally not the one getting laid but you are intelligent enough to see my point.
Providing for women is a natural dynamic, sure, but she has parents and that guy who's always orbiting her, taking her to the movies for that.
You paying might be nice occasionaly but I see it as putting myself in a dating/provider frame, which leads to the girl making you wait and controlling you with a hole.
I've had girls that have the idea of guys paying, who wouldn't come out unless I paid; that sort of girl you wouldn't want anyway.