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Senior Don Juan
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"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
What to do when she refuses to pay for dates?
- Thread starter mtlwlu
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Joe Stud
Master Don Juan
pay for the dates (keep them inexpensively reasonable), c-m on her face (and everywhere else), and keep her on the lower end of your stable until either she straightens out, or you replace her in your stable
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
I always pay, at least when I can. I like paying. Men have been providing for women for a million years; it is the natural dynamic. If you were to tell a Feminist that, she would probably slap you.
Of course, I attach a lot of unspoken conditions to paying. I would never take a girl out more than a time or two without getting sex, nor tolerate poor behavior. I am not talking about getting taken advantage of. The women in my life, including the one I am with now, have paid my way plenty of times. They know that I spend it if I have it, but they don't place money as a condition of being together.
If it bothers you to spend money on a girl, don't take her to bars and restaurants. Do something free. Some women will just never be ok with paying their own way. You are never going to win, despite being logically correct. Just buy the poor girl some Chinese food and make her happy.
Of course, I attach a lot of unspoken conditions to paying. I would never take a girl out more than a time or two without getting sex, nor tolerate poor behavior. I am not talking about getting taken advantage of. The women in my life, including the one I am with now, have paid my way plenty of times. They know that I spend it if I have it, but they don't place money as a condition of being together.
If it bothers you to spend money on a girl, don't take her to bars and restaurants. Do something free. Some women will just never be ok with paying their own way. You are never going to win, despite being logically correct. Just buy the poor girl some Chinese food and make her happy.
Accension
Senior Don Juan
It's just it bothers me you seeeing paying to be a pu55y-prerequisite.Bible_Belt said:
Like I see what you're saying that it's nice to take a girl out and make her feel special but doing so just because she put out wouldn't be a valid reason for me.
Even less valid is paying for the girls date and having this idea that now she should put out.
You said you wouldn't take a girl out and pay more than twice if you weren't getting laid.
That's sort of like saying to get laid, buy it. I wish I could fully explain why the provider is generally not the one getting laid but you are intelligent enough to see my point.
Providing for women is a natural dynamic, sure, but she has parents and that guy who's always orbiting her, taking her to the movies for that.
You paying might be nice occasionaly but I see it as putting myself in a dating/provider frame, which leads to the girl making you wait and controlling you with a hole.
I've had girls that have the idea of guys paying, who wouldn't come out unless I paid; that sort of girl you wouldn't want anyway.
I always pay.
It's quite simple, I lead, girl follows. So I set up the plan (i.e. time, place, etc), and so obviously I will be paying, and picking her up.
If you think your dates are too *expensive* then you are the one at fault. Only take her to places you can afford.
Also since the point of dates is to have fun (not to impress her), usually dates don't end up being too expensive anyways.
It's quite simple, I lead, girl follows. So I set up the plan (i.e. time, place, etc), and so obviously I will be paying, and picking her up.
If you think your dates are too *expensive* then you are the one at fault. Only take her to places you can afford.
Also since the point of dates is to have fun (not to impress her), usually dates don't end up being too expensive anyways.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.