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What to do when conversation is so obviously forced?

apocalypse later

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I'm currently in a relationship with a girl where conversation can feel a little forced sometimes. This is mostly on the phone though--when we're just together it's no problem. I've tried avoiding phone conversation, but it gets difficult when we don't see each other much in any classes.

Anyways, here's an example of when it feels forced. I get this semi-sick feeling in my stomach when it gets like this:

"Hey"

"Hey (pause)....what's going on?"

"(long pause, she's obviously trying to get something to say) My friend made me pissed off today (goes onto long story)"

At that point I just want to get off the phone. Normally, when we're physicall with each other, I can talk really easily with her. Just busting on her a bit, flirtatious banter, etc.

Should I just try to avoid the phone completely? Or are these awkward conversations just unavoidable sometimes?
 

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I don't know, the phone isn't a great place to talk, but if you insist heres an example.

yesterday i called a girl to set up a date, i just called and said hi, she said hi, i told her that i had job training tomorrow and if she wanted to hang out before, she said ok and started talking nonstop. i had to try 3 times before i could get to my goodnight line, it was like hey ge- before i get cut off with some balbhalbhlabhlabhablh. anyways the conversation on the phone only lasted around 4 minutes.

but that's how it usually is, if i talk long on a phone, usually the girl does all the talking
 

apocalypse later

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Well, she's a talkative girl, just not one to initiate a lot of conversation.

I don't know, maybe I should simply avoid talking on the phone unless it involves planning to hang out.
 

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apocalypse later said:
I don't know, maybe I should simply avoid talking on the phone unless it involves planning to hang out.

Yep. Avoid text messages too. Those are for girls.
 

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seriously. Talking is for women. Be a man of action.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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