RichardTheFrog
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Why don't you tell some stories of girls you've been with?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Why don't you tell some stories of girls you've been with?
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Yes. That’s tinder. It doesn’t matter what I’m using. I met a girl on Monday remembered her name cause she works in the same place as me. Looked her up and messaged her over email gave me her number and happily agreed to a date. Mostly guys do that. They’re considered a creep
I don't have time to search through your threads.I have in previous posts. Never used Tinder, so I am curious of that was what @Epicurus was using.
Will you send me a PM? I want to ask you something about real estate?I have in previous posts. Never used Tinder, so I am curious of that was what @Epicurus was using.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
No hatin' here, I don't know you from Adam I'm just saying from experience that it's very unlikely a decent woman on Bumble will not take offense to "I want to be inside you" as a response to her 'Hi' which the OP was going to respond with. In fact, you don't even say that- you compliment them on their specific features and then drop the sexual innuendo then based on how they responds you take it further.... or you’re a hater
I don't know what this means.Haha.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I like your logic my friend.No hatin' here, I don't know you from Adam I'm just saying from experience that it's very unlikely a decent woman on Bumble will not take offense to "I want to be inside you" as a response to her 'Hi' which the OP was going to respond with. In fact, you don't even say that- you compliment them on their specific features and then drop the sexual innuendo then based on how they responds you take it further.
Based on OP's update where he did use your suggestion I guess my logic wasn't that flawed after allI like your logic my friend.
“I can’t do it. So if I can’t do it that means that this guy over there is obviously talking to a low quality woman. Who is also ugly, fat and not in any way decent.”
I hate when they say “hi” cuz then it ruins my canned joke that only works when they say “hey”Yes, I did.
I said "Hi. How are you."
No response yet. I know there's no magical words that would get someone to respond, but maybe a little humor or something, Idk.
Or maybe it doesn't matter what you say because they would respond if they want to anyway.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
My method:It finally happened. I finally got a match on a dating app (Bumble) with a girl I actually find attractive.
She messaged me within minutes of matching and said...
Her: Hi
Okay, SoSuave.net, what should I do?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d44fpanzkzdh8ur/Screenshot_2018-08-22-16-41-07.png?dl=0
Others have suggested asking to meet in person, or at least exchanging numbers, within the first few messages.My method:
1. Start with a greeting along the lines of "Hey what's up!" Because if she won't respond to that she doesn't even want to talk to you so it doesn't matter what you say
2. Immediately ramp it up and make things interesting, think of something unique or clever or funny or at least just different to talk about to make yourself stand out and keep her engaged.
3. After the intro period of the conversation is over (this can take like 5 minutes or like an hour or two) and you're maintaining or growing interest and she can be at least somewhat certain you're a normal person capable of normal human interaction, this is where you ramp up the sexualness, start flirting, innuendo etc. And if she doesn't respond well then expect to only be friends with her if anything at all.
And that's pretty much it. Once you've done this you're good to ask her out or invite her over.
When I dabble in the apps, I ask for her # on the 3rd or 4th exchange. If I do not get it, I move on. Some also offer it up before. I just say it's better to talk in person than over a messaging app. Let's meet for drinks and proceed from there. Cut your loses by the 3rd message exchange if se says no and move on to greener pastures as you're just waisting time.Others have suggested asking to meet in person, or at least exchanging numbers, within the first few messages.
I think many times, it might be a good idea to refrain from sexual talk until you meet in person. Might even be a good idea to not try for sex at all on the first date. I'm not claiming that I follow this. But it might work if I did.
You have a LamborghiniIt finally happened. I finally got a match on a dating app (Bumble) with a girl I actually find attractive.
She messaged me within minutes of matching and said...
Her: Hi
Okay, SoSuave.net, what should I do?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d44fpanzkzdh8ur/Screenshot_2018-08-22-16-41-07.png?dl=0
I have no need to lie. Lies usually get found out in a short time. Plus, my house would give me away.You have a Lamborghiniso play it as if you are a professional athlete / own a software company / Hollywood producer some crazy high value person....
If I had a Lamborghini my bumble profile would be crazy .
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.