"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
what to do during a movie?
- Thread starter toddC
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
During a movie, you watch it... DUH!
Of course I'm sure you know that
You'll want to fluff a little and kino a little before the movie, that way its not too awkward if you kino her during the movie.
Don't ask her if you can touch her, be sure of yourself, if you're feel that whatever you are doing is right then it's right, she has to enter your world.
I like to start by holding her hand and sort of massaging it. Like move your thumb in little circles on her palm. Eventually you can move your hand up on to the wrist, which is one of those subtle, unknown "erogenous" zones.
If she's receptive to the hand massage, I usually put my other hand on her thigh (another ignored erogenous area). Start about midway, and maybe inch it up. But not too much or it might creep her out a little.
I think that the key to doing this is to be confident. Dosn't look at her for approval after taking her hand or something. Jut keep watching the movie as if you aren't doing anything out of the ordinary.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
undesputable
Master Don Juan
Wonderbread166
Senior Don Juan
Learn from this.
Cut the crap, guys, the most direct way is the best. If she digs you, put your arm around her from the start. And it's all you from there.
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Microphone Fiend
Master Don Juan
Make a move, think of all that you can gain by making a move. What do you have to lose other than your virginity?
WORKEROUTER
Master Don Juan
My question is this: how could you NOT put your arm around her and hold her during the movie??
Seriously, EVERY movie date I've been going on, whether in the theater, her house, my place, wherever!, my arm is around her within the first 15-20 minutes!
You gotta change your perception of what is "awkward." Think of it as totally natural...and guess what, it WILL be natural, both to YOU and HER.
I've never had a girl pull away from this.
Your right and now that I think of it, whenever I am out I always at some point in the night end up withmy arm around a girl because I do it naturally and in a playfully kinda way...how woudl this be any diffrent, thanks you actually put it in perspective for me lol
TheGotDamnHNiC
Don Juan
grab her arm and put it around you and then make her lay out on the couch so that you're laying beside her. this way you have access to her entire body with both hands...just start rubbing her legs and stomack softly and ****...after a while, put your head on her tities a lil bit, and then move your hand there...don't grab them...just move it around her bra or some ****. if you can listen to her breathing, move your hands according to it...if she is breathing harder then go further, otherwise find another spot...after you have touched her tities and the inside of her theighs. grab her head and start kissing her on the lips...and bam it's on...
if she don't let me touch her titie on the first try, then ill just chill, hold her, and watch the movie. i don't even try again...she would have to call me for me to **** with her after that...i hate chasing women...
and yes, this **** will work on the first meeting with a b*tch if she is comfortable around you..
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.