"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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what to do? advice please

IKO69

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there is a girl in uni i like. i would say we get along pretty good, made her laugh alot, was polite, yadda yadda. but i never believed i could have her because i am not that good when it comes to these matters and she is a very attractive lady. i asked her out before winter vacation and she turned me down. of course i was hurt, but, i sort of expected she would (rookie mistakes) and wanted to get it over with once and for all. i cut all contact with her as result. fast forward about two months. she happened to come across me and came up to me, said hi, and kept asking me why i'm never online anymore or around and all that jazz. i sorta just played it off then said i had to go.

now ill admit she is actually really cool and interesting for a girl, and if i was castrated or a queer, then it would be great. but i know its impossible to deny i like her and ill just get miserable if nothing were to come out of it (that is just be 'friends'). any advice on what to do would be greatly appreciated
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Miami FL? Maybe we should hook up? Drop me a line or two. :cool:



The best thing is to approach her, almost as if you never known her, you just know her name, thats all. Approach, start over. Women move on quick, and you can spark attraction with her now. As long as you are confident. Show her that you changed. If you are same old, she wont say yes.


But you gotta realize, that shes just another girl, nothing special about her, absolutely nothing. When you think the girl is special this early you are screwing up your chances. Shes used to being special, and its boring.
 

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A lot of guys come on here saying they are not that good with the ladies but they really want to get this high quality girl and to want some advice.

I wonder if these guys have been to the tips section or the bible.

There is no magic bullet. Even the biggest DJ will not be able to read three paragraphs and tell you how to this girl.

Here's the hard truth... getting good with girls takes a lot of work. Even dudes with tight game struggle with the really high quality girls.

The only way to have a chance is to give it a shot... if it comes off, well good. If you get shot down then pick yourself up, look for the lesson inherent in the situation and work on improving yourself.

Go read the dj bible.

JJ
 

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hehe why not!

well see the thing is, i am not very confident in my ability. it is a surprise she still talks to me is it is considering some of the mega afc things ive done. she said once she wouldve gone out with me depending on how it was presented (a reference to the afc-ishness). those incidents from the past have sort of underminded my confidence and is part of the reason why i never thought i could get her. at the time she was also single but i think she has a guy now.

i feel bad that i am cutting her out of my life on purpose for something she can't help, as well as being a cool person to boot. i realize love is a two way street but i am pissed because i really liked her. being just 'friends' would just make me really miserable. so that's my dilemma.
 
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definately JJ. I will look into this bible. i sorta realize when approaching "top quality" girls i am expected to get burned, especially since i would never be mistaken for a don juan, but, it's hard to control who you like and don't like you know? heh. but the main thing here is whether i should even talk to her or acknowledge her because i know she won't consider me. and i admit it does hurt me.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Learn to capitalize I and words at the beginning of a sentence.
 

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IKO69 said:
hehe why not!

well see the thing is, i am not very confident in my ability. it is a surprise she still talks to me is it is considering some of the mega afc things ive done. she said once she wouldve gone out with me depending on how it was presented (a reference to the afc-ishness). those incidents from the past have sort of underminded my confidence and is part of the reason why i never thought i could get her. at the time she was also single but i think she has a guy now.

i feel bad that i am cutting her out of my life on purpose for something she can't help, as well as being a cool person to boot. i realize love is a two way street but i am pissed because i really liked her. being just 'friends' would just make me really miserable. so that's my dilemma.
I'm surprised you haven't been raked over the coals by some of the guys in here, maybe it's because you're new.

It's not "something she can't help". She's tagging you along, keeping you as a friend by asking you where you've been and the such. It doesn't sound to me like she's interested at all.

It's OK to make occasional contact, I'm sure, but only if you're not focusing on waiting for this girl. If that's so look up "oneitis" on this forum and start reading, you'll understand what I mean. I'm the oneitis-king, or at least I was before I learned more about "spinning plates" - another thing you can search for.

Good luck.
 

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I don't want to develop one-itis but i know myself and i know if i continue to talk i will just get sucked in. so what i'm basically asking is if this is a case where it's best to just say f it and move on forever. i have already wasted enough time and dealt with enough unnecessary stress. if i wasn't blinded by her hotness i probably would not care, as she is the partying/clubber type and i am not so i know we would never mesh so to speak.

and thanks in advance
 
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