"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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What to do about a girl thats with her friends ?

ashman1

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Hello, im new to this forum, and to this site . . .

i have had absolutely no success with women , and this is one of the most
frequent problems that i run into . . .

when you see a girl you want to talk to and shes with a group of her friends
( could be some male friends, but female freinds are worse ! ) and you go over to talk to her and at everything you say , her friends tear you apart !
they heckel and blow up your spot at every turn ! - what can i do ?

and what is the secret of talking to girls in a religous setting ? especially the more conservitave religons , it seems like the moment you mention going out or getting together they start to run like scared deer ! - how do i overcome these problems ? - it's starting to get frustrating and i need help any advice i could get would be great - thnx :cry:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Rhoto

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ashman1 said:
Hello, im new to this forum, and to this site . . .

i have had absolutely no success with women , and this is one of the most
frequent problems that i run into . . .

when you see a girl you want to talk to and shes with a group of her friends
( could be some male friends, but female freinds are worse ! ) and you go over to talk to her and at everything you say , her friends tear you apart !
they heckel and blow up your spot at every turn ! - what can i do ?

and what is the secret of talking to girls in a religous setting ? especially the more conservitave religons , it seems like the moment you mention going out or getting together they start to run like scared deer ! - how do i overcome these problems ? - it's starting to get frustrating and i need help any advice i could get would be great - thnx :cry:

There are a lot of things you can do, but the FIRST thing you should do is read the DJ Bible.

Its available at the bottom of the page.
 

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ashman1 said:
and what is the secret of talking to girls in a religous setting ? especially the more conservitave religons , it seems like the moment you mention going out or getting together they start to run like scared deer ! - how do i overcome these problems ? - it's starting to get frustrating and i need help any advice i could get would be great - thnx :cry:
You mean like at church, for example?

One good leeway is to ask her if you could pray for her for something. That's usually a good lead-in for conversations, which should lead to an exchange in numbers, which should lead to hanging out outside of church.

But, keep in mind if you meet a chick at a religious setting things may move slower than you'd like them to. That's only a maybe, as there are many exceptions.

As for friends, bring some friends of your own.
 
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