"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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What to be aware of an open marriage with kid?

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Hey guys.

I am on an open marriage now, where the wife (I know she has way more options) was cheated on by myself and then she cheated.

I would like to bring women home, but she does not want that, but i will and have to.

I will not bang her anymore, since she is an extremely aggressive liar and does not tell me anything.

How can I organize the marriage, so my 8 old son does not get affected by that??

Since I can't control anything here, the money she already took from me, and I can't divorce, I don't know what to do at all.

She already cheated, after me telling her to do so. Now she wants to close again, since I do not trust her anymore, I cannot be able to close.

Should I just move ahead in life, and it will slowly be taken care of by itself?

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for the serious replies which are only good for my son.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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You’ll have to make a choice for yourself and what makes the most sense for you regardless of what we think. Personally if a woman cheats on me I’m done.
 

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Hey guys.

I am on an open marriage now, where the wife (I know she has way more options) was cheated on by myself and then she cheated.

I would like to bring women home, but she does not want that, but i will and have to.

I will not bang her anymore, since she is an extremely aggressive liar and does not tell me anything.

How can I organize the marriage, so my 8 old son does not get affected by that??

Since I can't control anything here, the money she already took from me, and I can't divorce, I don't know what to do at all.

She already cheated, after me telling her to do so. Now she wants to close again, since I do not trust her anymore, I cannot be able to close.

Should I just move ahead in life, and it will slowly be taken care of by itself?

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for the serious replies which are only good for my son.
Seek legal advice and file for divorce. There's nothing left here. Live close after the divorce and co-parent your child to the best of your ability. Get a vasectomy so you do not make mistakes like this again with the wrong person. Should you want another kid or kids later in life, freeze your sperm.
 

Manure Spherian

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I am on an open marriage now, where the wife (I know she has way more options) was cheated on by myself and then she cheated.
What drove you to cheat?
 

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Why can you not divorce?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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obelisk

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You can't craft this so your son doesn't get affected by this in your current format. Kids aren't stupid and see through the ruse. Bringing a woman home? Come on now. Be realistic. Do you really think that won't affect your son?

Two options:
1) divorce
2) therapy both individually and as a couple for both of you with some serious soul searching and deep work on your part to change, which will ultimately be beneficial

Staying in this kind of toxic family setup is bad for ALL involved.
 

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Well not that i would recommend it but there are couples who are swingers but have kids. It would be very hard to keep this type of secret from a kid as he gets older and starts to notice things
 

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Seek legal advice and file for divorce. There's nothing left here. Live close after the divorce and co-parent your child to the best of your ability.
I will not bang her anymore, since she is an extremely aggressive liar and does not tell me anything.
No point in staying in a marriage, even an open marriage, without sex with that person. File for divorce.
 

BackInTheGame78

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Hey guys.

I am on an open marriage now, where the wife (I know she has way more options) was cheated on by myself and then she cheated.

I would like to bring women home, but she does not want that, but i will and have to.

I will not bang her anymore, since she is an extremely aggressive liar and does not tell me anything.

How can I organize the marriage, so my 8 old son does not get affected by that??

Since I can't control anything here, the money she already took from me, and I can't divorce, I don't know what to do at all.

She already cheated, after me telling her to do so. Now she wants to close again, since I do not trust her anymore, I cannot be able to close.

Should I just move ahead in life, and it will slowly be taken care of by itself?

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for the serious replies which are only good for my son.
You can't. Divorce her and stop this nonsense before you ruin your child's emotional health and well being over some pvssy.

Pathetic. Why have kids if you don't want to raise them properly?

Once you have kids you have to be willing to make sacrifices. This is one of those times. You seem to be too selfish to care about anyone but yourself.

This "relationship" is a disaster and your son knows it and has to deal with this every day. Kids aren't stupid. They know what's going on.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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The inventor of the polygraph was a swinger and also came up with the wonder woman character even did a movie about it
 
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